Captain America vs. Rorschach/Nite Owl

Started by Inhuman20 pages

Originally posted by Inhuman
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@0:20 seconds and 1:00 those kicks are greater than The Ozy kick. 1st guy kicked is most likely dead.
Those guys would have flown much farther then 20 feet if they weren't stopped by walls.
And those Cap kicks didnt have the Snyder slow motion effect that tricks people into thinking they are super-powered hits.

Dont know why the vid i posted didnt work. Here it is again.

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"@0:20 seconds and 1:00 those kicks are greater than The Ozy kick. 1st guy kicked is most likely dead.
Those guys would have flown much farther then 20 feet if they weren't stopped by walls.
And those Cap kicks didnt have the Snyder slow motion effect that tricks people into thinking they are super-powered hits. "

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If that dioesnt work, Here is another showing the same thing.
@2:03 and 2:34

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Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
He could kill them instantly if he chose to.

He has the strength to go up against Ironman and win the majority in H2H after Tony was bloodlusted for finding out Bucky killed his parents.

Totally and completely false here. The director literally came out and said IM was both injured and holding back. He flat says they'll need to nerf Tony a little. I believe the quote says, IM won't be bringing all his weapons to the table.

Not only that, but he doesn't a majority h2h against Tony. Not even close. Tony curbs him when he goes all out and isn't holding back fighting like an idiot.

Originally posted by KingD19
If he can throw a bike hard enough to crumple a jeep, and split a log with his bare hands, I think a human skull wouldn't do well against a full force Cap hit. The same hits that a much weaker Red Skull used to dent solid steel.

Doesn't work that way. Plenty of people have not only survived a hit from a pissed off Cap, but they keep on fighting.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Doesn't work that way. Plenty of people have not only survived a hit from a pissed off Cap, but they keep on fighting.

And Roscharch, a guy who got overpowered by some cops, was able to survive multiple hits from Ozy.

What normal humans kept fighting after being hit with 100% of Cap's strength?

and?? I was referring to the Cap side claiming a punch from Cap would likely kill RO. It wouldn't. You didn't see me say a full punch from Ozy would kill RO did you? We can talk about punching inanimate objects till we're blue in the face, they mean jack when numerous examples show us it doesn't work that way against real people fighting back

I would reference Rum in the elevator scene. Cap hit him 2 times and he still kept on fighting. Even countered Cap's blows twice with Cap unable to respond. In the Civil War, one of Rum's goons took a punch from Cap and got up for more. This also happened when Cap when to acquire Batroc, one of the guys took a hit.. got knocked back... Cap deals with 2 more guys with ease... and that same guy comes back to fight more. Obviously he was KO'd the second time, but he still came back. That isn't even getting into the Meta's who's survived and come back for more. RO and NO are certainly more meta than they are regular humans. They are like Client and Window... normal humans by definition, but clearly portrayed as having meta level skill and durability. Cap isn't one shot killing either RO or NO. No way.

Do you have proof that Cap was using 100% of his strength to punch them?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Do you have proof that Cap was using 100% of his strength to punch them?
Do you have any proof that he wasn't?

KT made the claim, that means the burden is on him.

But to answer your question. Yes, I can actually prove he wasn't using 100% of his strength in those scenes and I'll do so the second kt admits that he can't back up his claim.

Originally posted by Silent Master
KT made the claim, that means the burden is on him.

But to answer your question. Yes, I can actually prove he wasn't using 100% of his strength in those scenes and I'll do so the second kt admits that he can't back up his claim.

He made no such claims. Even if he did then it's certainly true since there is no mention that Cap wasny using his full strength.

Kt is still embarrassing himself.

Originally posted by h1a8
He made no such claims. Even if he did then it's certainly true since there is no mention that Cap wasny using his full strength.

Was there any mention that Cap was using 100% of his strength?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Was there any mention that Cap was using 100% of his strength?

Nope but it is understood to ALWAYS be the case unless clearly shown or stated not to be.

Originally posted by h1a8
Nope but it is understood to ALWAYS be the case unless clearly shown or stated not to be.

According to who?

Originally posted by h1a8
Nope but it is understood to ALWAYS be the case unless clearly shown or stated not to be.

So Ozy was using all of his strength all the time but wasn't sending his opponents flying with every hit.

Originally posted by h1a8
Nope but it is understood to ALWAYS be the case unless clearly shown or stated not to be.

Yeah that's not a thing. You have to take character into account. Thor for example. Do you think he was hitting those completely regular guys in Avengers: AoU as hard as he hit Kurse?

Because according to you, people always use 100% unless stated otherwise.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Do you have proof that Cap was using 100% of his strength to punch them?

So it's idiot mode silent mode then? I never claimed he was punching at a 100% his power. Froth was kind enough to quote what I said. I said plenty of people have got up from a hit from a pissed of Captain America. Every example I gave was just that. Now it's up to YOU to prove Cap wasn't or was giving a 100% in those punches. You say he wasn't, okay, now prove it.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So it's idiot mode silent mode then? I never claimed he was punching at a 100% his power. Froth was kind enough to quote what I said. I said plenty of people have got up from a hit from a pissed of Captain America. Every example I gave was just that. Now it's up to YOU to prove Cap wasn't or was giving a 100% in those punches. You say he wasn't, okay, now prove it.

I asked when normal humans had kept fighting after getting hit with 100% of Cap's strength, you proceed to name scenes. so either you were claiming the people in the scenes took full strength punches or you didn't understand the question.

Which is it?

He can't answer questions, he wants everyone to answer his tho.