Captain America vs. Rorschach/Nite Owl

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Originally posted by Nibedicus
You understand that one shot kill may also include: a punch to the throat or squishing their heads like a grape orrrrr snapping their necks?

Snap a neck isn't a strike. Squish head isn't a strike. Rorshach head and is too durable anyways to be squished considering the kick he tanked.

A punch to the throat is doing nothing but hurting him. Remember he tanked a blow that can take a human's head clear off without any damage.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Of course they are moved backwards. They are tripped or they stumble or are pushed or fall down backwards after getting hit.

Again this has nothing to do with being literally thrown backwards. One has literally zero relevance to the other. Being tossed by the force of something wherein your feet literally leave the ground is not the same as getting kicked backwards.

Not all backwards movements are the same. Different applications of force causing different results.

Seriously, this is basic stuff that I feel I shouldn't need to explain. I feel like I am just wasting my time explaining something this simple over and over.

Your position matters a lot. Lying on the ground give lots of frictional force to be overcome. I've seen real humans get sent flying by kicks attack from standing positions. If they were lying down then they wouldn't even budge from the same force.

Even if Cap applied more force then it certainly was by much more (less than a magnitude). So not being damaged to being killed is a difference of more than a magnitude.

Originally posted by h1a8
Snap a neck isn't a strike. Squish head isn't a strike. Rorshach head and is too durable anyways to be squished considering the kick he tanked.

A punch to the throat is doing nothing but hurting him. Remember he tanked a blow that can take a human's head clear off without any damage.

Bull. Spine and face durability does not convert to throat durability.

Cap can probably kill WS with a clean hit to the throat. It only takes 33 lbs of pressure to crush a human trachea but the human skull can be hit by thousands of newtons of force without breaking. Boxers generate up to 5000 newtons of force with their punches. Cap would be many many many mang times stronger than this.

All focused at their throat would one hit kill anyone below Cap level durability. Hell, I would argue that this has a good chance of killing Cap as well.

Originally posted by h1a8
Your position matters a lot. Lying on the ground give lots of frictional force to be overcome. I've seen real humans get sent flying by kicks attack from standing positions. If they were lying down then they wouldn't even budge from the same force.

Even if Cap applied more force then it certainly was by much more (less than a magnitude). So not being damaged to being killed is a difference of more than a magnitude.

There was no friction force to overcome in this example. He was lifted completely off the ground. SMH. Worthless reply.

Also, I never said the kick was orders of magnitude or that the same kick would one hit kill Ozy and Ror.

All I said that Cap has as close to an apples-to-apples showing to that of Ozy's face kick that we can use to compare.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I said, sent backwards. People are kick all the time in the head and sent backwards. Obviously they don't go flying in the air like Cap's kick (which indicates a powerful strike) but they are sent backwards. Post a video of somebody kicking somebody in the head while on the ground and them being sent anywhere. Doesn't happen.

Reviewed the clips again. Twice. All were ppl falling down from a KO.

No one was sent flying.

Not one.

10 mins I'll never get back. Pls review the evidence and provide actual time stamps of your examples next time. It's rude to waste ppl's time, man.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Reviewed the clips again. Twice. All were ppl falling down from a KO.

No one was sent flying.

Not one.

10 mins I'll never get back. Pls review the evidence and provide actual time stamps of your examples next time. It's rude to waste ppl's time, man.

👆

Kt is a disgrace and I'm glad other posters are seeing it.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Bull. Spine and face durability does not convert to throat durability.

Yes it does. Durability to all parts of the body are highly correlated. Otherwise, That's like saying that Namor's throat (no feats for it) can be crushed by human force since that has nothing to do with his durability of his face and body (where his feats exists).


Cap can probably kill WS with a clean hit to the throat. It only takes 33 lbs of pressure to crush a human trachea but the human skull can be hit by thousands of newtons of force without breaking. Boxers generate up to 5000 newtons of force with their punches. Cap would be many many many mang times stronger than this.

All focused at their throat would one hit kill anyone below Cap level durability. Hell, I would argue that this has a good chance of killing Cap as well.

The problem is Rorschach doesn't have human level durability. If he did then his head would have came off or exploded with that kick. Thus your argument is faulty. It's like me saying that since a human trachea can be crushed by human force then Nite Owl can crush Cap's trachea in one blow. See what I did there?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
There was no friction force to overcome in this example. He was lifted completely off the ground. SMH. Worthless reply.
There was an acute angle between the kick and the trajectory. That means friction force EXISTED. If you don't understand then:

1. Ozy didn't kick upwards, he kicked sideways.
2. Rorshach's lower body slid on the ground before reaching the air, Rorshach didn't fly directly upwards.

Jeeze H1 and KT. I get that you think Ozy wins but this utter lowballing of Cap's kick is getting ridiculous. Both Ozy's and Cap's kicks were pretty good feats of striking strength. Just accept it and move on. Your continuous exaggeration of Ozy's kick only makes you look desperate.

Froth, show me where I said the kick wasn't impressive. You keep saying I'm lowballing the feat, I did no such thing. I think it's a damn powerful and impressive display. Something we've come to expect from Cap. All I ever said was, I think Ozy's is a little superior. Not a lot, but a little. They are both impressive as you say. This thread would've been over a long time ago, the only reason it's not, is because people claimed Cap could one shot kill these guys. That is directly disagree with, and hence the thread has continued. We all know Cap will beat the ever loving Crap out of these guys one way or another.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Jeeze H1 and KT. I get that you think Ozy wins but this utter lowballing of Cap's kick is getting ridiculous. Both Ozy's and Cap's kicks were pretty good feats of striking strength. Just accept it and move on. Your continuous exaggeration of Ozy's kick only makes you look desperate.
Nib said it right when he called Kt a waste of time. He's a living, breathing, imbecile.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Jeeze H1 and KT. I get that you think Ozy wins but this utter lowballing of Cap's kick is getting ridiculous. Both Ozy's and Cap's kicks were pretty good feats of striking strength. Just accept it and move on. Your continuous exaggeration of Ozy's kick only makes you look desperate.

It's all they have, the next movie could show Captain America kicking a tank over a building, kt and h1 would still say Ozy's feet is slightly better.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nib said it right when he called Kt a waste of time. He's a living, breathing, imbecile.

Hey cheerleading loser. So I guess you view yourself as pathetic, since you claimed cheerleading is. Luckily Nib said nothing of the sort.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Hey cheerleading loser. So I guess you view yourself as pathetic, since you claimed cheerleading is. Luckily Nib said nothing of the sort.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Reviewed the clips again. Twice. All were ppl falling down from a KO.

No one was sent flying.

10 mins I'll never get back. Pls review the evidence and provide actual time stamps of your examples next time. It's rude to waste ppl's time, man.

Embarrasing. You lied, were called out, and wasted his time due to your stupidity and retardation. You're a joke and a liar.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Embarrasing. You lied, were called out, and wasted his time due to your stupidity and retardation. You're a joke and a liar.

have you ever called people pathetic for cheerleading?

Again, a lie, he didn't say what you said he said. OWNAGE 5000 of the QuanSHOES

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
have you ever called people pathetic for cheerleading?

Again, a lie, he didn't say what you said he said. OWNAGE 5000 of the QuanSHOES

He said you lied, said you wasted his time, and asked you actually review the evidence. You're embarrassing. Dude, how do you live with yourself. You're a liar who is also retarded. Kt the retarded liar.

Avoiding the owning once again. Not what I asked you... I said have you ever called somebody pathetic for cheerleading? Simple yes or no

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Avoiding the owning once again. Not what I asked you... I said have you ever called somebody pathetic for cheerleading? Simple yes or no
You were caught lying and wasted his time. You aren't respected and aren't smart. Other posters may go easier on you but trust me no one thinks you're smart because you're clearly retarded. You are a waste of time. 😂

Avoidance no. 3 LMAO. I own your soul