Originally posted by UCanShootMyNovaThat's Legends friend, it has no bearing on Canon.
Except he has?Did Vos's style change in DD because as far as I recall it was Ataru which Dooku knows every single weakness of as is stated in RotS.
On the other hand the text highlights two aspects of that duel that contributed to Vos' victory. The first is that though Dooku was a master of technique, Vos' unpredictability gave him the edge; the inference being that Dooku's technical approach to duelling left him shortchanged against someone who threw out the rules, who did not employ technique, but instead extreme randomness.
The second aspect is Vos' acrobatic offense, which for whatever reason left Dooku encircled, entrapped and caused him to overextend.
On the other hand the fact that Dooku is made out as a master of technique in comparison to Vos indicates that he was in fact the better duelist, and the telekinetic domination he exerted in that fight combined with some remarks Ventress later makes, demonstrate him to be the better Force user as well.
Originally posted by chingchangwalla
I'm sure Dooku would've been able to resist if had time to 'brace' himself. It's not like he was expecting Asajj to just choke him out
Savage, you mean? And he might have but if it was just him resisting an enraged Savage's attack the outcome would have been questionable considering Savage had enough power to do the same against Ventress simultaneously.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
That's Legends friend, it has no bearing on Canon.On the other hand the text highlights two aspects of that duel that contributed to Vos' victory. The first is that though Dooku was a master of technique, Vos' unpredictability gave him the edge; the inference being that Dooku's technical approach to duelling left him shortchanged against someone who threw out the rules, who did not employ technique, but instead extreme randomness.
The second aspect is Vos' acrobatic offense, which for whatever reason left Dooku encircled, entrapped and caused him to overextend.
On the other hand the fact that Dooku is made out as a master of technique in comparison to Vos indicates that he was in fact the better duelist, and the telekinetic domination he exerted in that fight combined with some remarks Ventress later makes, demonstrate him to be the better Force user as well.
Which is why I asked if it had changed in canon.
The second part was noted to be his "ferocity" in text. His acrobatic offensive is just a description of the offensive he employed against Dooku. I wonder what form is noted for its acrobatics.
Being a superior telekinetic doesn't mean much if you can't capitalize on your advantage which, as is apparent, Dooku was unable to. I'd like you to post the comments by Ventress you think indicate support of your point.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNovaYeah I was talking about the RotS novel.
Which is why I asked if it had changed in canon.The second part was noted to be his "ferocity" in text. His acrobatic offensive is just a description of the offensive he employed against Dooku. I wonder what form is noted for its acrobatics.
Being a superior telekinetic doesn't mean much if you can't capitalize on your advantage which, as is apparent, Dooku was unable to. I'd like you to post the comments by Ventress you think indicate support of your point.
And I'm aware, but it had Dooku entrapped nonetheless, I don't see Maul being encircled by Vos as Dooku was, he is far less a static duelist and instead extremely acrobatic and kinetic a fighter himself. Neither is Maul a technical duelist in the same way Dooku is, he is not a fencer who attempts to dismantle his opponents by exploiting flaws in their technique, but simply eviscerates them with the sheer deadliness (and indeed unpredictability) of his own offense. Which simply leaves Vos being an inferior fighter to one the most skilled and highly trained Sith in history.
And no it doesn't, but the point is that he isn't better than Dooku, and I see no reason to believe he's more powerful than Maul either. A comparison between Maul and Dooku Force wise is a matter of splitting hairs, and Vos has no feats that suggest superiority. So he's losing Force-only for starters.
This is the quote from Ventress:
Taken from Dark DiscipleImplication being that Sidious > Dooku > Vos in terms of dark side power from her perspective."Darth Tyranus," intoned Count Dooku's Master. Even though he wasn't physically present, the simple sound of his voice - rasping, papery, somehow, like the rustling of ancient parchment - sent a shiver through Ventress. This man was steeped in the dark side of the Force, saturated with it, in a way that she was certain Vos, perhaps even Dooku, had never been.