Help me undrstand the next characters power level

Started by Dareangel4 pages

Help me undrstand the next characters power level

Hi. there are plenty of things i dont know about comics but trying to learn. some of those characters confuse me and i wanted to see your opinion as far as their power levels. like meta, herald, trans and all that. here is the list:

1. Mr Sinister
2. Apocalypse
3. Super Boy Prime
4. Super Boy Prime on Guardian Amp
5. Kal Kent
6. King Thor
7. Black Panther(strength wise - peak human, enhanced, super human)
8. Wolverine( strength wise - peak human, enhanced, super human)
9. achilles (DC COMICS)
10. Thanos
11. WWH
12.WBH

Mr. Sinister: Meta
Apocalypse :Mid Herald
SBP: Trans
GA SBP : Skyfather
Kal Kent: Skyfather
King Thor : Skyfather
Black Panther: Peak Human
Wolverine: Peak Human
Achilles: low herald
Thanos: Trans
WWH: High Herald
WBH: Trans

Re: Help me undrstand the next characters power level

1. Mr Sinister--meta/LH
2. Apocalypse--LH/MH (his showings vary quite a bit)
3. Super Boy Prime--trans
4. Super Boy Prime on Guardian Amp--high trans/low low SF
5. Kal Kent--high trans
6. King Thor--low SF
7. Black Panther (strength wise - peak human, enhanced, super human)--strength is very slightly superhuman imo
8. Wolverine( strength wise - peak human, enhanced, super human)--peak human strength
9. achilles--LH
10. Thanos--trans
11. WWH--HH
12.WBH--high trans

GA SBP was a skyfather the way he fought Monarch.

maybe, depends on how you view monarch i guess. i think they both straddle the boundary.

you think supes 1M could beat (or have close battles) against either GA prime or monarch?

the thing with kal kent is that he is very confusing. in some stories he punch time while depowered and easily takes out firestorm with just simple breath. in other moments he is hurt by metal men crew. in another one he easily defeats all star superman. in other one else men orbs take him out easily. however in his last appearnce in convergence - he was beaten by batman 1 million in a physical fight and ultraman basically 1 shotted him. kal kent came strong at his first appearances however it seems like with time DC portrays him as average superman or even less dont know.

well, with kal, the longer he was away from the super sun the weaker he became... i don't recall him losing to bats 1M though. where did that happen?

Originally posted by leonidas
maybe, depends on how you view monarch i guess. i think they both straddle the boundary.

you think supes 1M could beat (or have close battles) against either GA prime or monarch?


Yes, Kal Kent would beat both.
Originally posted by Dareangel
the thing with kal kent is that he is very confusing. in some stories he punch time while depowered and easily takes out firestorm with just simple breath. in other moments he is hurt by metal men crew. in another one he easily defeats all star superman. in other one else men orbs take him out easily. however in his last appearnce in convergence - he was beaten by batman 1 million in a physical fight and ultraman basically 1 shotted him. kal kent came strong at his first appearances however it seems like with time DC portrays him as average superman or even less dont know.

He was depowered in Convergence.

😬

Originally posted by leonidas
well, with kal, the longer he was away from the super sun the weaker he became... i don't recall him losing to bats 1M though. where did that happen?

convergence: cryme syndicate #1

here is the batman 1 million beating him watch from 9:38 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-XesA8nRGc

at 16:01 ultraman one shots him

Originally posted by abhilegend

He was depowered in Convergence.

😬

really? where is it stated? dont get me wrong i am not challenging if what you say is true or not, on the contrary, i want to see kal kent as powerful. but when batman 1 million beats him, are they in their universe or not

Re: Help me undrstand the next characters power level

Originally posted by Dareangel
Hi. there are plenty of things i dont know about comics but trying to learn. some of those characters confuse me and i wanted to see your opinion as far as their power levels. like meta, herald, trans and all that. here is the list:

1. Mr Sinister
2. Apocalypse
3. Super Boy Prime
4. Super Boy Prime on Guardian Amp
5. Kal Kent
6. King Thor
7. Black Panther(strength wise - peak human, enhanced, super human)
8. Wolverine( strength wise - peak human, enhanced, super human)
9. achilles (DC COMICS)
10. Thanos
11. WWH
12.WBH


SBP - Trans / teambuster
SMP - High tier teambuster with skyfather physicals
Kal Kent - low Skyfather , time punch ftw
King Thor - Skyfather
Black Panther / wolverine - enhanced
Thanos - Skyfather
WWH - Herald
WBH - Low teambuster

teambuster isn't a rank you ****ing idiot.

1. Mr Sinister-Meta/Low Herald
2. Apocalypse-Mid-Herald
3. Super Boy Prime-High Trans
4. Super Boy Prime on Guardian Amp-Skyfather
5. Kal Kent-Skyfather
6. King Thor-Skyfather
7. Black Panther(strength wise - peak human, enhanced, super human)superhuman
8. Wolverine( strength wise - peak human, enhanced, super human)-enhanced
9. achilles (DC COMICS)
10. Thanos-High Trans
11. WWH-High Herald
12.WBH-Trans(Yes, trans, Carver!)

Wolverine seems like he's got more than just peak human strength. I vividly remember him lifting the dead weight of a good number of ninja after they'd dogpiled him. This happened at least once maybe more

you're right, he does have some higher feats. i was speaking more in general. he may be considered slightly enhanced though.

Re: Help me undrstand the next characters power level

1. Mr Sinister - High Meta
2. Apocalypse - Low Trans
3. Super Boy Prime - Low Skyfather
4. Super Boy Prime on Guardian Amp - High Skyfather
5. Kal Kent - Mid Skyfather
6. King Thor - Mid Skyfather
7. Black Panther(strength wise - peak human, enhanced, super human) - High Street
8. Wolverine( strength wise - peak human, enhanced, super human) - High Street
9. achilles (DC COMICS) - Low Herald
10. Thanos - Low Skyfather
11. WWH - High Heralds
12.WBH - High Trans

Originally posted by abhilegend
Mr. Sinister: Meta
Apocalypse :Mid Herald
SBP: Trans
GA SBP : Skyfather
Kal Kent: Skyfather
King Thor : Skyfather
Black Panther: Peak Human
Wolverine: Peak Human
Achilles: low herald
Thanos: Trans
WWH: High Herald
WBH: Trans

I guess it depends on who you ask.

@Dareangel

Go to the tierings here at KMC...

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t577922.html

I agree with Abhi's list, with the exeption of Wolverine.

I think the matter of his strength is beyond dispute at this point.