Help me undrstand the next characters power level

Originally posted by Dareangel
really? where is it stated? dont get me wrong i am not challenging if what you say is true or not, on the contrary, i want to see kal kent as powerful. but when batman 1 million beats him, are they in their universe or not

Ultraman blindsided him and he was losing his powers anyway.

Originally posted by abhilegend
When Batman 1 million beat him he was totally powerless.

Ultraman blindsided him and he was losing his powers anyway.

oh i see. is there any showing of him being full power? i see that he is depowered in all showings he has.

1. Mr Sinister - High meta
2. Apocalypse - Low Trans
3. Super Boy Prime - Mid Trans
4. Super Boy Prime on Guardian Amp - High Trans to Low Sky father
5. Kal Kent - High Trans
6. King Thor - Sky father
7. Black Panther(strength wise - peak human, enhanced, super human) - Low Meta
8. Wolverine( strength wise - peak human, enhanced, super human) - Low Meta
9. achilles (DC COMICS) - Low Herald
10. Thanos - High Trans
11. WWH - Low Trans to Mid Trans
12.WBH High Trans to low Sky father

Does anyone think Sinister and Apocalypse's power-relation has been a bit weird?

Sinister, even with hundreds of years of prep, had no shot at killing Apocalypse.

Yet he seems to perform roughly around Apocalypse's league when fighting other people.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Does anyone think Sinister and Apocalypse's power-relation has been a bit weird?

Sinister, even with hundreds of years of prep, had no shot at killing Apocalypse.

Yet he seems to perform roughly around Apocalypse's league when fighting other people.

yep. never really understood it either. sinister's highs match well with apoc's and if anything he seems smarter so i've never understood. kinda the older brother syndrome it seems like. makes no real sense to me though.

I would place Sinister at low herald, or even higher. He has stomped quite powerful X-Men rosters with ease.

I would also generally put Sinister around low herald, but, as I mentioned, someone around low herald would generally be able to give Apocalypse a fight for his money.

I generally chalk this up to Apocalypse getting so much hype but little in the way of the feats.

based on powerset sinister should be able to do pretty much anything apoc can do and more. one of marvel's coolest characters imo.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Does anyone think Sinister and Apocalypse's power-relation has been a bit weird?

Sinister, even with hundreds of years of prep, had no shot at killing Apocalypse.

Yet he seems to perform roughly around Apocalypse's league when fighting other people.

Sinister is a good character. Love to see more of him. I wish theyd do a villian mini

@ proff .....Apoc low trans, WTF!

I always assumed that the Sinister and Apocalypse dynamic was because Apoc created Sinister, and Sinister probably thinks that the guy could uncreate him if Sinister tried to take him on one by one.

I suppose ozymandias eventually took over Sinister's role as the scheming underling.

Sinister was gold all up until messiah complex, then it went downhill.

Yeah, like most X-Men related stuff I would argue.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Yeah, like most X-Men related stuff I would argue.

All of Marvel now that I think about it.

Originally posted by krisblaze
I suppose ozymandias eventually took over Sinister's role as the scheming underling.

Sinister was gold all up until messiah complex, then it went downhill.

Messiah complex? Which one was that?

Originally posted by krisblaze
All of Marvel now that I think about it.

Quite possibly.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Messiah complex? Which one was that?

The one with the first mutant birth post house of m.

Last good X men story.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Quite possibly.

The one with the first mutant birth post house of m.

Oh ok. Where cable was running around with hope.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Ultraman blindsided him and he was losing his powers anyway.

as i remember in the 1 million arc, when he is losing his powers the flight is among the first things he is losing. but here he still has his flight which means he wasnt that depowered.

Originally posted by Dareangel
Hi. there are plenty of things i dont know about comics but trying to learn. some of those characters confuse me and i wanted to see your opinion as far as their power levels. like meta, herald, trans and all that. here is the list:

1. Mr Sinister
2. Apocalypse
3. Super Boy Prime
4. Super Boy Prime on Guardian Amp
5. Kal Kent
6. King Thor
7. Black Panther(strength wise - peak human, enhanced, super human)
8. Wolverine( strength wise - peak human, enhanced, super human)
9. achilles (DC COMICS)
10. Thanos
11. WWH
12.WBH

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