It's not a concession. It's just an acknowledgement that you're a typing machine with way too much time on their hands that I don't have the time/will to engage right now.
None of your points are ones I am incapable of countering. Your claim that Force sever is a purely lightside ability?
Here's Nihilus's abilities from the campaign guide.
Bam. Countered.
As I said I don't have the will to constantly exchange blows with you however so I'd rather wait till you are busy enough to stop being so stubborn.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
It's not a concession. It's just an acknowledgement that you're a typing machine with way too much time on their hands that I don't have the time to engage right now.None of your points are ones I am incapable of countering. Your claim that Force sever is a purely lightsaber ability?
Here's Nihilus's stats from the campaign guide.
Bam. Countered.
As I said I don't have the will to constantly exchange blows with you however so I'd rather wait till you are busy enough to give up your stubbornness.
That's a gameplay mechanic 😬
The lore takes precedence. Otherwise, Sion, Traya and Malak can all Drain people across a Star System or something stupid like that.
I only take gameplay mechanics if there's absolutely nothing else on the subject and it isn't trumped by lore. Gameplay mechanics are unquestionably by far the lowest on the scale of canon/material worth taking.
Originally posted by SunRazer
The part where they're listed with Distant Power and Devastating Power, which apparently means they can do that. Ask Ant.Nihilus as well, obviously. I think Revan also.
How does Distant Power + Devastating Power amount to being capable of draining someone from across a star system? Lol.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
What's this debate even about?
The nature of Sever Force, currently. I told him that Nihilus used Drain on Kreia and he doesn't believe me. He thinks it's some DS Sever Force when the game and Campaign Guide make it abundantly clear that it's an incomplete application of Drain.
I like you Nova but like Ellimist you're too much like me. And I don't really have the will power to continue these slug matches. I could bring up the fact that Nihilus has constantly passively drained the crew of his ship for extremely long periods with his presence and plenty of other examples of his Force Drain not being a power that feeds from death but you'd likely have an exc- counter for that as well. I don't see much point in continuing this honestly since you'll never stop and likely have enough KOTOR II sources stockpiled to make an argument off of nearly any basis you like.
Originally posted by SunRazer
The nature of Sever Force, currently. I told him that Nihilus used Drain on Kreia and he doesn't believe me. He thinks it's some DS Sever Force when the game and Campaign Guide make it abundantly clear that it's an incomplete application of Drain.
The game takes precedent regardless, though.
@Ant - I edited some more stuff in.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I like you Nova but like Ellimist you're too much like me. And I don't really have the will power to continue these slug matches. I could bring up the fact that Nihilus has constantly passively drained the crew of his ship for extremely long periods with his presence and plenty of other examples of his Force Drain not being a power that feeds from death but you'd likely have an exc- counter for that as well. I don't see much point in continuing this honestly since you'll never stop and likely have enough KOTOR II sources stockpiled to make an argument off of nearly any basis you like.
Those aren't the same as what he used on Traya.
And I don't know why you're complaining about the KotOR II information at my disposal. Nobody ever defers to me on that basis 🙁
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The game visibly displayed it as Sever Force, but the Campaign Guide mistakenly deemed it as Force drain, tbh.The game takes precedent regardless, though.
There's nothing "visibly displayed", lol. You are aware that in order to use Malachor! Drain, you have to sever your opponents from the Force? That's what happened to the Masters on Dantooine or if you Drain them.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
That's exactly the point. 👆 The game has a Force drain animation and uses it in cutscenes. The fact it's not used when Kreia is stripped is proof that it's not Force drain.
There's no animation when you feed off most of the people you kill, as well, even though it's the same technique as Nihilus. There's no animation when the Assassins do it, even though it's the same technique.
The animation is actually the one for Drain Life and they just borrow it at times.
Why would Nihilus sever, anyway? He doesn't care for philosophical irony or anything - he just wants to feed. Why would he not make Kreia his first victim? It's even said in-game that they wanted Kreia to die.