Qui Gon Jinn vs Dark Woman

Started by Beniboybling9 pages

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Views change, I also thought Vader was a competent fighter too.

Leland didn't specifically say it wasn't canon, all he did was ask questions about it. The Insider article validates it as a legitimate source, and thus ripping your argument of ANh Vader > Maul > Qui Gon.

It's canonicity isn't in question, the nature of the entity Maul fought is. In regards to which you're hopelessly floundering.

Occams Razor dictates he has the same skill level of Maul in TPM.

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It indicates nothing of the sort, if it were an illusion for example there would be no basis for parity between Maul and it at all, bar a physical resemblance. The same if it were merely a vision. And as long as those remain possibilities you have nothing to stand on, so take your L already this is becoming embarrassing.

Chee asks a legitimate question in regards to the Nature of the resurrected Maul, he does not ask a rhetorical one. the Insider comment clarifiers that it is indeed a resurrection, which according to Occam Razor, would mean he has the skills and abilities of Darth Maul in TPM., thus destroying your comparison between Jinn and Vader.

All I have to say is that canon (legends) disagrees with you. I'm sorry if that's too hard for you to accept.

Lol, Leland Chee was not answering a question with a question. Instead he is quite clear that on the topic of Resurrection, "nothing's been determined as to what we are actually seeing", and flat out states its not the real Maul, overriding the opinion of Abel G. Pena and his buddy Enrique.

I'd sorry that the Keeper of the Holocron has taken out the legs of your trump card.

Beni, watching you work is a pleasure. Magnifique! Encore!😛

Originally posted by Beniboybling
[B]Lol, Leland Chee was not answering a question with a question. Instead he is quite clear that on the topic of Resurrection, "nothing's been determined as to what we are actually seeing", and flat out states its not the real Maul, overriding the opinion of Abel G. Pena and his buddy Enrique.

Not at all, Chee was simply enquiring further, and insider clarifies the ordeal, it's quite simple as that. Not to mention the entire premise of the comic was to see how a fight between tmp Maul and Vader would go down. Simply put Maul basically shits on Vader until the latter stabs himself, I'm sorry Beni, but at this point your just denying canon.

It's very simple, this aborts your entire ranking of Vader and clarifies what the comic was referring to.

On a cursed moon, Maul is miraculously resurrected through the power of the dark side and challenges Vader to the Sith legacy.

- Taken from Insider 83

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Not at all, Chee was simply enquiring further, and insider clarifies the ordeal, it's quite simple as that. Not to mention the entire premise of the comic was to see how a fight between tmp Maul and Vader would go down. Simply put Maul basically shits on Vader until the latter stabs himself, I'm sorry Beni, but at this point your just denying canon.
Whereas you are just desperately circumventing the facts that 1. Chee does not inquire, he answers inquiries, because he is the Keeper of the Holocron, not some fan 2. He makes two definitive statements in his response, that it is not Maul, and that the reality of the whom it has not determined.

The premise of the comic simply being to depict "a cool battle." The results of which evidently they don't which to be beholden too considering how its validity has been compromised in this manner.

Naturally we can keep up this back and forth indefinitely, but we all know your just trying to save face, in light of being hopelessly incorrect.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
It's very simple, this aborts your entire ranking of Vader and clarifies what the comic was referring to.

On a cursed moon, Maul is miraculously resurrected through the power of the dark side and challenges Vader to the Sith legacy.

- Taken from Insider 83

Honestly it's not even concrete enough to support your assertion. That Maul was resurrected in the flesh is not what's stated here, only that he was resurrected in some form. Isn't semantics fun?

Why not just ask Lee for clarification?

Because someone already did, and I posted the answer? 😬

Insider does a fine job of answering the matter, sorry ben, I know this means a lot to you, but it is what it is. Try not to get too upset.

Beni, how is this in any way, clarification?

The Vader vs. Maul brawl is canon? It's not quite the real Darth Maul. Hence the "or something." Who knows, it could have been a vision like Luke confronting Vader on Dagobah or just some sort of Sith illusion. Or a clone. Nothing's been determined as to what we are actually seeing, just that Vader and Maul have a pretty cool battle.

??...He even says it could also be a Clone and that nothing was determined as to what it actually is. Soo...how is this a clarification answer?

It clarifies that its not the real Maul, and that what it is remains ambiguous. As for an absolute answer of whether what it was exactly, clearly Chee isn't prepared to provide an answer.

The way I see it that Chee opens it up to range of cases that could be true, unfortunately for Beni, the Insider quote does put an end to the speculation.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Insider does a fine job of answering the matter, sorry ben, I know this means a lot to you, but it is what it is. Try not to get too upset.
I expected that your concession would be cryptic, but consider it spotted and accepted nonetheless.

Your getting way too upset over this lol. There isn't a concession because the source material is on my side, quashing your speculation. Insider clarifies the matter Beni, so you're gonna have to deal with it.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
It clarifies that its not the real Maul, and that what it is remains ambiguous. As for an absolute answer of whether what it was exactly, clearly Chee isn't prepared to provide an answer.

Of course it's not the real Maul. Maul was dead...as was stated in the comic. The Prophets brought/resurrected Maul back, but that doesn't mean it was the same body that they picked up off Naboo.

What's the argument here?

That this "resurrected" Maul = TPM Maul in ability and skill.