COIE Anti-Monitor vs. Ivory Kings

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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Okay i pretty much doubt that anti matter can do anything to the Beyonders. They aren't matter beings, they are described as energy beings or some sort of thing like that. They aren't affected by antimatter (Remember that the Anti Monitor destroyed thousands of universes because he launched anti matter waves at them, which kills matter" The explosion to destroy Hundreds of Thousands of Universes "killed them" and yet that isn't proven yet. The Beyonders might as well still be out there, looking in the dark. Also, Infinity minus 5 isn't literal. The DC multiverse isn't infinite, because then it would never end, and then the Anti Monitor would never be able to destroy it 😂 😂 😛 . Its logic.

Oh but it works on energy beings too.

There were infinite universes and Anti Monitor destroyed all but 5. It's Reiterated innumerable times.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh but it works on energy beings too.

There were infinite universes and Anti Monitor destroyed all but 5. It's Reiterated innumerable times.

Nope. Anti matter destroys matter. And matter destroys anti matter. The Beyonders aren't made by any of these. They are described as energy beings, but not any energy. The thing is that they are so powerful that they can't be comprehended nor described. The Multiversal Avangers described them as that, because that's the only thing they could think of, but doesn't mean that it is accurate.

The Beyonders destroyed ALL the Multiverse. They were just stopped because Doom traveled back in time. Besides, there is no evidence that the Beyonders were stopped. In the end, they claimed that they were conducting an experiment. The exact experiment wasn't necessarily to kill the Multiverse; the Avangers assumed that. So they might as well have accomplish their experiment. The matter is very complex, several theories can be drawn out. Like for instance where was TOAA? Is TOAA a beyonder? (He created the multiverse so that makes him from beyond) Are the beyonders heralds of TOAA ment destroy the multiverse in order for a new one to be born? etc etc etc.

Again the power of the Beyonders is above the Antimonitor, for the Antimonitor is a multiversal being. To compare the Beyonders with a DC comic would be with Michael and Lucifer maybe.

Its all energy, baby. AM east the Beyonders for snacks.

lol @ the idea that Thor/Hyperion/Starbrand/Abyss/Ex Nihilo could wreck Michael and Lucifer like they did those corny Beyonders.

Originally posted by Zack M
Its all energy, baby. AM east the Beyonders for snacks.

?? Energy isn't affected by matter or antimatter. Anti Matter and matter are made up of energy. And if so, why couldn't the Living Tribunal stop them? The tribunal can do anything. If Anti matter could stop the beyonders, then the Living Tribunal would have launched waves of anti matter to them. The Tribunal can do that. So, no. Beyonders win baby!! 😛

Originally posted by Juntai
lol @ the idea that Thor/Hyperion/Starbrand/Abyss/Ex Nihilo could wreck Michael and Lucifer like they did those corny Beyonders.

Lol. Beyonders which were mocking them. Replace all those beyonders with one Ivory King and the Avangers would have been F***** up! Well, the killed the Tribunal, and the Tribunal is on par with Lucifer and Michael.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
and the Tribunal is on par with Lucifer and Michael.
No he wasn't. lol.

Originally posted by Juntai
No he wasn't. lol.

Hmmm, in terms of power they are. The living tribunal can do anything. I do believe however that Michael and Lucifer are slightly more powerful that the Tribunal but not than the Beyonders. They are on par with the Beyonders (The whole race).

Living tribunal is dead. Just like the Beyonders will be. 😛

Originally posted by Zack M
Living tribunal is dead. Just like the Beyonders will be. 😛

The Beyonders aren't dead. They are probably out there....in the dark of space...where time doesn't exist....Waiting, planning, watching..

They will be when they run into AM.

Originally posted by Juntai
lol @ the idea that Thor/Hyperion/Starbrand/Abyss/Ex Nihilo could wreck Michael and Lucifer like they did those corny Beyonders.

The manifestations?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Nope. Anti matter destroys matter. And matter destroys anti matter. The Beyonders aren't made by any of these. They are described as energy beings, but not any energy. The thing is that they are so powerful that they can't be comprehended nor described. The Multiversal Avangers described them as that, because that's the only thing they could think of, but doesn't mean that it is accurate.

The Beyonders destroyed ALL the Multiverse. They were just stopped because Doom traveled back in time. Besides, there is no evidence that the Beyonders were stopped. In the end, they claimed that they were conducting an experiment. The exact experiment wasn't necessarily to kill the Multiverse; the Avangers assumed that. So they might as well have accomplish their experiment. The matter is very complex, several theories can be drawn out. Like for instance where was TOAA? Is TOAA a beyonder? (He created the multiverse so that makes him from beyond) Are the beyonders heralds of TOAA ment destroy the multiverse in order for a new one to be born? etc etc etc.

Again the power of the Beyonders is above the Antimonitor, for the Antimonitor is a multiversal being. To compare the Beyonders with a DC comic would be with Michael and Lucifer maybe.


Have you actually read the comics or just rambling?

Because this is some rambling of highest order.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Have you actually read the comics or just rambling?

Because this is some rambling of highest order.

I've read the comics.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I've read the comics.

I don't think you comprehended them. The full scene is here.

Originally posted by Galan007
Had to post this scene, from Secret Wars #5...

[b]The full story:

At least we have definitive answers now. 👆 [/B]

Originally posted by abhilegend
I don't think you comprehended them. The full scene is here.

I read the Comics, and i perfectly understand that Doom used a bomb that could destroy 100000 universes to "kill" the beyonder. But does that mean that all the beyonders died? The whole race? I pretty much doubt so. Doom did absorbed their powers, but that doesn't mean that all the Beyonders were destroyed. That doesn't mean that the ivory kings were destroy. The beyonders that appear infront of Doom seemed pretty much like those the Multiversal Avangers faced. That doesn't mean that The Three Ivory Kings which killed the Cosmic Beings were there. So again, i've read the comics.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I don't think you comprehended them. The full scene is here.

👆

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I read the Comics, and i perfectly understand that Doom used a bomb that could destroy 100000 universes to "kill" the beyonder. But does that mean that all the beyonders died? The whole race? I pretty much doubt so. Doom did absorbed their powers, but that doesn't mean that all the Beyonders were destroyed. That doesn't mean that the ivory kings were destroy. The beyonders that appear infront of Doom seemed pretty much like those the Multiversal Avangers faced. That doesn't mean that The Three Ivory Kings which killed the Cosmic Beings were there. So again, i've read the comics.

All of the beyonders were killed. Specifically stated.

Originally posted by abhilegend
All of the beyonders were killed. Specifically stated.

No. They believe to have killed them all, but that doesn't mean it is true. For now the Beyonders are dead...atleast for now. I never said that the Comics said that the Beyonders are alive; I said i don't think they are all dead/extinct. There is little knowledge on the Beyonders and their realm. There is no way for Doom and the others to know that ALL the Beyonders were there when the bomb exploted, and that All of them died. To me there are still out there, watching and preparing for a round two.

Either way, the Antimonitor isn't on the cosmic level of the Beyonders, which was the main topic here.