COIE Anti-Monitor vs. Ivory Kings

Originally posted by dynamix
wait a minute, the beyonders....who laid out The Living Tribunal like Tarver did Roy Jones got whoop by Thor and Hyperion?! There has to be some context behind that one...

Two of the three Beyonders that killed off the entire Celestial race, the abstracts, and the LT faced off vs Thor/Hyperion/Starbrand/Abyss/Ex Nihilo. Thor and Hyperion did nothing worth mentioning. Abyss/Ex Nihilo and their minions took out one Beyonder. Starbrand took out the other.

After that a rift opens up and HORDES of Beyonders stream through it. Thor and Hyperion are seen fighting them till they get overwhelmed.

Peak COIE AM would wreck the Beyonders.

Originally posted by zopzop
Nope, it's worse than that.

Two of the three Beyonders that killed off the entire Celestial race, the abstracts, and the LT faced off vs Thor/Hyperion/Starbrand/Abyss/Ex Nihilo. Thor and Hyperion did nothing worth mentioning. Abyss/Ex Nihilo and their minions took out one Beyonder. Starbrand took out the other.

After that a rift opens up and HORDES of Beyonders stream through it. Thor and Hyperion are seen fighting them till they get overwhelmed.

Peak COIE AM would wreck the Beyonders.

Originally posted by zopzop
Nope, it's worse than that.

Two of the three Beyonders that killed off the entire Celestial race, the abstracts, and the LT faced off vs Thor/Hyperion/Starbrand/Abyss/Ex Nihilo. Thor and Hyperion did nothing worth mentioning. Abyss/Ex Nihilo and their minions took out one Beyonder. Starbrand took out the other.

After that a rift opens up and HORDES of Beyonders stream through it. Thor and Hyperion are seen fighting them till they get overwhelmed.

Peak COIE AM would wreck the Beyonders.

Originally posted by iceman24567
👆 AM would swat them like flies

Originally posted by Genii96
How do you know its the exact same?

Originally posted by zopzop
I don't understand the question. How do I know it's the exact same what?

Originally posted by iceman24567
👆 AM would swat them like flies

AM would end up face down and spread eagle. They took out the living Tribunal much less his week ass.

Originally posted by zopzop
Nope, it's worse than that.

Two of the three Beyonders that killed off the entire Celestial race, the abstracts, and the LT faced off vs Thor/Hyperion/Starbrand/Abyss/Ex Nihilo. Thor and Hyperion did nothing worth mentioning. Abyss/Ex Nihilo and their minions took out one Beyonder. Starbrand took out the other.

After that a rift opens up and HORDES of Beyonders stream through it. Thor and Hyperion are seen fighting them till they get overwhelmed.

Peak COIE AM would wreck the Beyonders.

But Thor and Hyperion didn't take out any of them. How does any of this support a AM win.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
AM would end up face down and spread eagle. They took out the living Tribunal much less his week ass.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
But Thor and Hyperion didn't take out any of them. How does any of this support a AM win.

Then to add insult to injury, LEGIONS of Beyonders failed to instantly take down Thor and Hyperion. Even if Thor and Hyperion didn't do any lasting damage, they held out against a SH|T ton of them.

Thor, Abyss, Ex Nihilo, Starbrand, Hyperion, these are HERALD level beings. This team would lose to Thanos or Odin.

The lowest showings COIE Monitor had were against Supergirl (a PRE CRISIS KRYPTONIAN, google the stupid crap they've done on panel) and Flash (this dude moved so fast he busted out of DC and entered Marvel continuity in an issue of Quasar). Also keep in mind this wasn't peak COIE AM who forced a DC reset.

Originally posted by zopzop
That's the thing, characters Thor and Hyperion level took out TWO of the THREE Beyonders that slaughtered the abstracts.

Then to add insult to injury, LEGIONS of Beyonders failed to instantly take down Thor and Hyperion. Even if Thor and Hyperion didn't do any lasting damage, they held out against a SH|T ton of them.

Thor, Abyss, Ex Nihilo, Starbrand, Hyperion, these are HERALD level beings. This team would lose to Thanos or Odin.

The lowest showings COIE Monitor had were against Supergirl (a PRE CRISIS KRYPTONIAN, google the stupid crap they've done on panel) and Flash (this dude moved so fast he busted out of DC and entered Marvel continuity in an issue of Quasar). Also keep in mind this wasn't peak COIE AM who forced a DC reset.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Am is overrated.

Clearly.

Originally posted by zopzop
The lowest showings COIE Monitor had were against Supergirl (a PRE CRISIS KRYPTONIAN, google the stupid crap they've done on panel) and Flash (this dude moved so fast he busted out of DC and entered Marvel continuity in an issue of Quasar). Also keep in mind this wasn't peak COIE AM who forced a DC reset.

Even Spectre, who was amped so heavily that he was implied to be > the Presence, barely managed to overcome peak AM. Heck, an argument could be made that AM wasn't even at his peak when Spectre entered the fray, as AM had used the bulk of his power traveling to the dawn of time(a gargantuan feat that was rather unheard of back then.)

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Clearly.

Originally posted by zopzop
Nope, it's worse than that.

Two of the three Beyonders that killed off the entire Celestial race, the abstracts, and the LT faced off vs Thor/Hyperion/Starbrand/Abyss/Ex Nihilo. Thor and Hyperion did nothing worth mentioning. Abyss/Ex Nihilo and their minions took out one Beyonder. Starbrand took out the other.

After that a rift opens up and HORDES of Beyonders stream through it. Thor and Hyperion are seen fighting them till they get overwhelmed.

Peak COIE AM would wreck the Beyonders.

👆

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
AM would end up face down and spread eagle. They took out the living Tribunal much less his week ass.

😂 😂 😂

Originally posted by Galan007
Like you said: that wasn't peak AM, who became no less than 2x more powerful after he absorbed the anti-matter universe(which, like I mentioned earlier, actually contained a multiverse-worth of energy.)

Even Spectre, who was amped so heavily that he was implied to be > the Presence, barely managed to overcome peak AM. Heck, an argument could be made that AM wasn't even at his peak when Spectre entered the fray, as AM had used the bulk of his power traveling to the dawn of time(a gargantuan feat that was rather unheard of back then.)

Originally posted by iceman24567
Then lost to the Star Brand and the twins who arent even skyfather level Im sure AM would slaughter those three then move on to spite stomping the Ivory Kings 👆

Those are specifically stated to be manifestations. Thus, you can't conclude that they are as powerful as the three who fight the cosmics:

Peak AM is drained by Dr. Light and defeated by the Bronze Age heroes. Bronze Age Kryptonians are comparable modern Kryptonians.

Originally posted by Galan007
Like you said: that wasn't peak AM, who became no less than 2x more powerful after he absorbed the anti-matter universe(which, like I mentioned earlier, actually contained a multiverse-worth of energy.)

Even Spectre, who was amped so heavily that he was implied to be > the Presence, barely managed to overcome peak AM. Heck, an argument could be made that AM wasn't even at his peak when Spectre entered the fray, as AM had used the bulk of his power traveling to the dawn of time(a gargantuan feat that was rather unheard of back then.)

Spectre is not implied to be greater than Presence.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Spectre is not implied to be greater than Presence.