ANH Vader vs TPM Maul

Started by Beniboybling11 pages

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
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It's interesting to see what makes certain people tick, I can make all the alt-righty jibes in the direction of modern liberalism faggotory, or all use the big mean racists shivs in my utility belt, yet it is only when I start knocking a peg or three off Vader that the true but hurt rears it's prolapsed head. Let's just say I find it amusing that a debate on fictional characters can inspire such impotent rage.

Your facists rants where at least amusing yeah, but this is just painful.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Your facists rants where at least amusing yeah, but this is just painful.

Then perhaps something for the pain will make it better?

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
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It's interesting to see what makes certain people tick, I can make all the alt-righty jibes in the direction of modern liberalism faggotory, or use the big mean racists shivs in my utility belt, yet it is only when I start knocking a peg or three off Vader that the true butt hurt rears it's prolapsed head. Let's just say I find it amusing that a debate on fictional characters can inspire such impotent rage.

That has always been the most effective way to attack a passionate fan. Attack their characters and watch their nerd tears stream. If you notice D. Thor doesn't ever get upset because he doesn't give a shit about Star Wars for the most part.

If only Quan could apply such perception to himself. 🙂

Originally posted by Beniboybling
If only Quan could apply such perception to himself. 🙂
I care about the merits of debating. I care about objectivity. I care about principles. I am kmc. Just be aware this is my kingdom and I intend on it remaining that way.

Whatever you say Quan.

Good lad.

Yeah, Dooku has a colossal TK feat:

They moved farther into the darkness.

"Keep your focus loose," Obi-Wan warned him in a low tone. "He will come from anywhere when he comes."

"This time I'll be prepared."

"Don't be so confident," Obi-Wan answered. "You probably won't be."

They were nearing the end of the hangar. He sensed it rather than saw it. The corroded vehicles were more numerous now, lined up like dark, giant phantoms.

Like phantoms..

Phantoms that move...

Obi-Wan wrenched his gaze away. He could have sworn the ancient ships were moving.

Then he knew.

"This way!" he yelled, as the first vehicle suddenly flipped over. It would have crushed them if Obi-Wan hadn't dashed to the side with Anakin on his heels. He flattened himself against the wall as another vehicle moved, its jagged wing a lethal weapon, capable of slicing them to ribbons. A cruiser suddenly zoomed toward the wall, straight at them.

"Drop!" Anakin and Obi-Wan hit the floor, hugging the stones as the cruiser passed over them and smashed into the wall.

Vehicle parts began to fall like rain. The crashes were deafening. They leaped, twisted, and dived to avoid them, using the Force to deflect them when they could. Finally they came to rest in the shadow of one of the giant statues. Obi-Wan leaned against a clawed foot and squinted into the darkness.

He could not see the Sith, but he felt the Sith's amusement, his triumph.

The vehicles now smashed into one another, creating a solid mass of screaming metal, effectively blocking them from the front of the hangar.

Anakin ran to the mountain of metal and tried to climb over it. Obi-Wan felt the dark side rise in a crest and then fall, leaving a vacuum behind.

"It's no use," he told Anakin. "The Sith is gone."
-- Jedi Quest: The Final Showdown

And yes, it was Dooku:

THE SITH LORD’S presence is spoken of in the book, but he is not specified as Darth Tyranus until The Desperate Mission (2005), the first book of the Last of the Jedi series. At one point in this story, the events in The Dangerous Games (2002) are described as occurring six years earlier, but the time line fits in such events as being four years earlier.
-- The Essential Reader's Companion

And Sith cruisers are enormous:

Sith Battleship

Craft: Sith battle cruiser; Class: Capital; Cost: Not available for sale; Size: Large (215 m long);
-- The Dark Side Sourcebook

He is easily in Vader's league in TK.

Some (ancient) Sith cruisers are enormous, other ships are decidedly smaller, for example 75-meter long vessels like this that more closely fits what's described.

Are they noted to be Sith cruisers?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Some (ancient) Sith cruisers are enormous, other ships are decidedly smaller, for example 75-meter long vessels like this that more closely fits what's described.

It said cruiser not gunship.

He is easily in Vader's league in TK.

Indeed, and he's a vastly better duelist.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
It said cruiser not gunship.
The author also called a speeder a cruiser, and various other non-capital ship sized vessels, she uses the term liberally.

On the other hand the vessels in question are noted to have afterburners (a feature purposed for fast moving attack craft) and jagged wings, in that respect the vessel I cited fits the description best; the cruiser Azronger is referring to bearing none of those attributes.

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Bias sees what bias sees.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
The author also called a speeder a cruiser, and various other non-capital ship sized vessels, she uses the term liberally.

And that's fair which is why I asked if they were referred to as SITH cruisers.

Originally posted by quanchi112
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Bias sees what bias sees.

Quite, whereas objective folk like myself read the text. 🙂 👆

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
And that's fair which is why I asked if they were referred to as SITH cruisers.
See my edit. And I don't know, but seeing as they discover these warships on Korriban in an ancient hangar its obvious they are of Sith origin.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Quite, whereas objective folk like myself read the text. 🙂 👆
I have seen bias creep into your soul before this. It isn't as bad as sunrazer but I bet he was a lot more objective years ago. I'm trying to help you.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
The author also called a speeder a cruiser, and various other non-capital ship sized vessels, she uses the term liberally..

Quote?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
See my edit. And I don't know, but seeing as they discover these warships on Korriban in an ancient hangar its obvious they are of Sith origin.

Alright.

When you say

"the cruiser Azronger is referring to bearing none of those attributes."

Is that because there's a specific description of the ships noting they are without this feature or is your stance coming from the basis that they're not described to possess aforementioned feature.