I did some research on "Those Who Sit Above in Shadow" and learned they have very limited control outside their realm,
and THIS is why they were unable to stop Thor, or at-least even try.
Evidently, they manifested in the "Fates" locale, which is outside their realm.
That aside,
how they were able to give Loki the nine realms connected to the tree is apparently beyond comprehension then.
Yes! ... had Loki not tried to con his way into their favor,
the story goes,
they were going to give Loki control over the nine realms of the tree,
but, since Loki played himself,
they gave Loki what he wanted,
but, they gave Loki the nine realms nearing the end of their time in their entropic state.
Still bad ass. I guess back then they didn't have that limitation, or the writer just ignored that detail.
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Therefore, defeating and owning Asgard-Mangog empowered Loki with utter ease, is the feat to highlight.
The Fates unable to act against him in their own region is also juicy.
We know RKT was definitely > Odin ... just how much greater needs to be further examined.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklynYou saying it is canon isn't proving it. Your ignorance is appalling. Thor wins with a gesture. Beheadment fkr the doubleyaaaaaaaaa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I ALREADY did![b]Mxy DESTROYING and RECREATING the MULTIVERSE on a whim. Then revealing he does it on a routine basis.
Defend your Rune King, peasant! [/B]
Originally posted by Mr Master
I did some research on "Those Who Sit Above in Shadow" and learned they have very limited control outside their realm,
and THIS is why they were unable to stop Thor, or at-least even try.Evidently, they manifested in the "Fates" locale, which is outside their realm.
That aside,
how they were able to give Loki the nine realms connected to the tree is apparently beyond comprehension then.Yes! ... had Loki not tried to con his way into their favor,
the story goes,
they were going to give Loki control over the nine realms of the tree,
but, since Loki played himself,
they gave Loki what he wanted,
but, they gave Loki the nine realms nearing the end of their time in their entropic state.Still bad ass. I guess back then they didn't have that limitation, or the writer just ignored that detail.
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Therefore, defeating and owning Asgard-Mangog empowered Loki with utter ease, is the feat to highlight.
The Fates unable to act against him in their own region is also juicy.We know RKT was definitely > Odin ... just how much greater needs to be further examined.
It kinda gives credence to the whole Beyonders messin with lesser beings. Like It's all a game..
Originally posted by Cogito
Do youread skimlook at pretty pictures only as far as you need to to feel that your opinion is validated? It outright stated that his humanity only made him unpredictable compared to the behavior of most Gods.When a character is already in the Skyfather range, and stated specifically to be immune to magic because of his 5D heritage, it's hardly a stretch to assume that applies to a being who's only a little above him in raw power.
And I'm outright telling you that that attribute gave him "power" over them. I said nothing whatsoever about "raw power," those are someone else's words.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
U may be right about TWSAIS. For all their implied power they bitched out against Loki in his recent series. But then again they went all vague again and even gave a flimsy suggestion that they may be Beyonders? It was weird as phuck.It kinda gives credence to the whole Beyonders messin with lesser beings. Like It's all a game..
recent appearances would have them weaker than previous appearances though because they would not have fed off ragnarok so they def shouldn't have been as powerful as they made themselves out to be initially. however powerful that was...
pretty sure there is no proof to support them being weaker outside their realm though--i brought it up as a possible excuse. in truth, we know damn near nothing about them or the extent of their power though.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You saying it is canon isn't proving it. Your ignorance is appalling. Thor wins with a gesture. Beheadment fkr the doubleyaaaaaaaaa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FOOL!!!!
If you actually READ comics you would know that it was EXPLICITLY stated that ALL Mxy appearances are canon.
Rune King Thor beheads an EMO, EGGPLANT, like, Thanos, NOT the MIGHTY KAL KENT!!!
Originally posted by Blue Area VetWho has said that? Pretty much all of us think RKT was powerful -- just not *as* powerful as some initially tried to claim.
I find it funny how so many of you all are stacked up to try to prove RKT wasn't that powerful
Looks like the RKT-wank has significantly died down, though, so that's a plus. People are actually starting to realize that the context of the story played a HUGE part in the feats he preformed. 👆
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
U may be right about TWSAIS.
Those Who Sit Above in Shadow ...
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/thosewhositthor.htm
Powers/Abilities:
"In their own Realm, this might be true,
and they were probably incredibly powerful seeing as they absorb massive amounts of energy
from the cycle of death and rebirth of Asgard,
which should give them power beyond belief.
However,
they seemed to have very limited control outside their own Realm, as they could not stop Thor from acting."
Mr M
Rune King Thor was implied to be incredibly powerful, cosmic in scale but he wasn't a battle board character. There isn't much to define him. He's definitely at least high end Skyfather in level. It was implied in Loki's book that the TWSAIS are actually the Beyonders which would indicate at least cosmic level power and would finally give us a more clear hierarchy placement.
He wins here though. Conceptually speaking, I believe he was on a level beyond this. It reminded me of Ion Kyle. Not much feats but we were dealing with a level of power where nothing required a power challenge. His mortal experiences allowed him to shield his thoughts and machinations from TWSAIS but make no mistake, he acted without any fear or regard for their power and spat in their faces even in their own seat of power. They could do nothing to stop him and as witnessed they have no problem exerting complete power over the Gods. As a matter of fact, they even offered him a seat at their table to become one of them.
Originally posted by Galan007
Who has said that? Pretty much all of us think RKT was powerful -- just not *as* powerful as some initially tried to claim.Looks like the RKT-wank has significantly died down, though, so that's a plus. People are actually starting to realize that the context of the story played a HUGE part in the feats he preformed. 👆
Exactly what RKT wanking was that?
Also, is there no concensus on his power level, so why are you claiming he wasn't as powerful as he was thought to be? How do you quantify the power level of a being who has access to knowledge and magic so powerful and ancient that a skyfather level Loki had no idea how he was doing the things he was doing?
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Exactly what RKT wanking was that?Also, is there no concensus on his power level, so why are you claiming he wasn't as powerful as he was thought to be? How do you quantify the power level of a being who has access to knowledge and magic so powerful and ancient that a skyfather level Loki had no idea how he was doing the things he was doing?
It's wanking, since RKT didn't do a whole lot. Kal on the other hand, has superior feats.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Rune King Thor was implied to be incredibly powerful, cosmic in scale but he wasn't a battle board character. There isn't much to define him. He's definitely at least high end Skyfather in level. It was implied in Loki's book that the TWSAIS are actually the Beyonders which would indicate at least cosmic level power and would finally give us a more clear hierarchy placement.He wins here though. Conceptually speaking, I believe he was on a level beyond this. It reminded me of Ion Kyle. Not much feats but we were dealing with a level of power where nothing required a power challenge. His mortal experiences allowed him to shield his thoughts and machinations from TWSAIS but make no mistake, he acted without any fear or regard for their power and spat in their faces even in their own seat of power. They could do nothing to stop him and as witnessed they have no problem exerting complete power over the Gods. As a matter of fact, they even offered him a seat at their table to become one of them.
Rune King Thor KNEELS before the Power of Superman 1 Million!!!