Christianity is the majority group in America, and when you're the majority group you get a lot less sympathy than if you're a minority, and the people who hold said majority group in contempt also hold the belief that it's justified because of an imbalance in power.
That's my interpretation anyways.
It does piss me off though when some Christian baker doesn't bake a gay couple a cake and SJW's complain about Christianity being evil, yet a lot of those same people pounce on anyone who shits on Muslims.
I honestly don't see how Christianity in the US is being shat upon?
80+% of Americans identify as Christian and Christianity has the largest influence over politics than any other religious group. Or likely group for that matter. Politicians are free to openly declare they're Christian and propose laws and legislature based on their faith.
So what am I missing? Explain.
edit: 80+% might be off, but at least 75% seems to be accepted
I was raised Catholic and eventually became an atheist and I have a general dislike of all religions, and especially of course Christianity. I do feel some slight sympathy for them because what I see happening a lot is people trying to compare them with Muslims. Or people just using Christians as an excuse to pivot the discussion away from Radical Islam. If you go check the thread about the Orlando shooting you will see people trying to bring Christianity into it.
Since overall, if any religion in the present day were to be Public Enemy #1 it would be Islam.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Actually in America, According to the Clintons, Catholism is public enemy #1, which is why they were hoping to start a "Catholic Spring" in the church.
I'm guessing maybe it's because when it comes to Islamic inspired terrorism we don't suffer that as much here as other countries do. We have certainly suffered terrorist attacks at the hands of Muslims, but luckily we do not live in a country where the dominant religion is Islam.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I'm talking about the accepted bigotry against christians and Catholics.
Surprisingly from people who think of themselves to be open-minded and liberal, yet are extremely vile when it comes to Christianity.
I am speaking from my own experience in the US too. I was very surprised how limited is the knowledge on Christianity among many liberal, highly educated people who consider themselves atheists.
Originally posted by Robtard
I honestly don't see how Christianity in the US is being shat upon?80+% of Americans identify as Christian and Christianity has the largest influence over politics than any other religious group. Or likely group for that matter. Politicians are free to openly declare they're Christian and propose laws and legislature based on their faith.
So what am I missing? Explain.
edit: 80+% might be off, but at least 75% seems to be accepted
I'm with Rob on this one. I don't get it.
I find it annoying that crazy beliefs are acceptable as long as it's Christianity. The only difference between a 'cult' and a 'religion' is numbers.
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I'd also add "time" to that too. eg give Scientology several hundred years and we'll see where it stands. Though it's on an uphill struggle to shed the cult status and move into the religion bracket, considering when it started. I imagine people where more open to fantasy stories two thousand+ years ago than they are in modern times.
Look at it this way, what if Christianity didn't exist and a group of people tried to push it now. 'Son of god you say?"
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Probably also the fact that Jesus is a much more lit central figure for a religion than a guy who admitted he only started scientology to make money.
But with time, things can and do change. What if in 500 years the idea that Hubbard is an actual profit who is floating off in whateverland as an energy-ghost isn't as ridiculous to say a billion people?
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
I'm with Rob on this one. I don't get it.I find it annoying that crazy beliefs are acceptable as long as it's Christianity. The only difference between a 'cult' and a 'religion' is numbers.
I would prefer to call them all cults, because that is more or less what they are.
The level of brainwashing can vary. Sometimes it can be really really crazy type stuff, other times it's just bemusing stuff like "you can't eat this certain dish on a Friday because reasons". Somewhere out there a cosmic being is worried about what you eat and on which day you eat it.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Probably also the fact that Jesus is a much more lit central figure for a religion than a guy who admitted he only started scientology to make money.
For me the most sinister thing about Scientology is the money. Like okay yeah at church they will ask you for donations, but for Scientology you legit need money to be a part of it and fully experience it lol. You need to spend money to "move up" to different levels. They also more or less practice segregation(they have special "celebrity" centers).
I have to admit it's kind of a bummer though when you find out certain celebrities are scientologists.
Originally posted by Surtur
I have to admit it's kind of a bummer though when you find out certain celebrities are scientologists.
Yeah, I used to not mind Tom Cruise, but I'm almost to the point where I will boycott anything he's in (I'll probably completely skip Cruise's Mummy remake, for example). Especially after what's-her-name has revealed some crazy shit about Scientology... uh, Leah Remini, that's her name.
For some reason Christianity and other big "religions of the book" (Islam, Judaism) are sort of unnaturally 'protected' from criticism, which is wrong. They should be open to debate and scrutiny via empirical evidence like anything else. So if followers of these religions feel offended it's not necessarily that they have personally been attacked, but the potentially dangerous ideas they peddle are under scrutiny. And sorry, they should be openly scrutinized more frequently because they don't hold up.
Ideas matter. That's why the world is in the shape its in with Islamic extremists. Their ideas are dangerous and not based in reality.
Originally posted by Patient_LeechYou mean crazier than usual shit?? I'm curious now. Lol
Yeah, I used to not mind Tom Cruise, but I'm almost to the point where I will boycott anything he's in (I'll probably completely skip Cruise's Mummy remake, for example). Especially after what's-her-name has revealed some crazy shit about Scientology... uh, Leah Remini, that's her name.
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
For some reason Christianity and other big "religions of the book" (Islam, Judaism) are sort of unnaturally 'protected' from criticism, which is wrong.
I grant you Islam, but that has to do with Leftists and their peculair take on "religion of peace".
Just by observation you'll see that criticism of Christianity is fairly common and books/videos/lectures/blogs etc. on that mattar are easily accesible. In short, you are clearly wrong on that one.
When it comes to Judaism, it's a bit different because it has much, much less adherents, but, again, there is no-one stopping you from criticising it.