What is the appeal of Darth Vader ?

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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
@ Kurk

So you typed all that and did post anything of significance that changes the argument. I don't care that he was abused as a poor child and managed to overcome that. Whoopty Do. That isn't much of an accomplishment.


So you are admitting your ignorance.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
For all the emotional instability Anakin showed (and he did have such moments, just less that what you and Quan are saying), he sure accomplished vastly more than Maul, which again, is the point.

One is either emotionally secure or insecure. There aren't on and off moments. When the baby has his candy he's not going to cry. When the candy gets taken away he cries until someone puts a pacifier in his mouth. Anakin to a tee right there. Countless times he freaks out in unstable situations rather than thinking rationally. We can cite these moments together if you'd like.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi

As a little boy he was already building his own pod racer, developing and building an advanced robot from scratch. This blows out of the water anything Maul ever did.


Plenty of 9 year olds can play with legos; not many can survive weeks in a hostile environment or the rigorous training of Sidious.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi

Further, and again, he was a member of the Jedi counsel, and the youngest ever. You can try and minimize that feat, but again, it's greater than anything Maul ever did. Anakin was the youngest ever. The reason he wasn't made master is because the Council was concerned over the relationship between Anakin and Palps, but that was the reason, nothing to do about his skill or track record. His exploits in the Clone Wars warranted his position.

So Palpatine begging the jedi to put Anakin on the council to serve as his representative, aka spy, is indicative of some sort of achievement in your eyes? He was denied master because he was so emotionally immature and conflicted which left him especially vulnerable to Palpatine.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi

While all the above is true, you'd also be left with Anakin beating somebody better than anybody Maul ever beat. Anakin was beating Sith apprentices with vastly more years of experience than him. Maul was losing to Padawan's with barely any experience. They are so far removed from each other when it comes to accomplishments it's not even funny. So you can talk about emotions all you want, Anakin still did far more and beat far better than Maul ever did.

Anakin lost to Hondo the pirate and his pet monkey. You don't think that's embarrassing? He was naive enough to help him up from the cliff too.
Anakin was also losing to padawans. Remember Barriss Offee? He struggled with her up until the end when his emotions had to take over. A jedi half his size kicked him off a ledge. The difference here is that Maul had both of his apprentices dead from the start. Kenobi was hanging helpless and Maul played with his food for too long. Maul was about to kill Kanan if it wasn't for Tano's involvement. So at the end of the day, no Anakin's not better.

Kurk, where do your true loyalties lie? First, you mock Quanchi even more than Darth Thor and I do consistently by pretending to be his apprentice, and then you truly pledge allegiance to him? Wtf man?

The envy on Petrus is palpable.

Lmao, more like the disappointment tbh. Why envy, exactly? Delusional.

Originally posted by Petrus
Lmao, more like the disappointment tbh. Why envy, exactly? Delusional.
You wish to be my apprentice as well. I can tell you're unhappy with where your life is going. You wish to serve me.

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Originally posted by Petrus
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Originally posted by Petrus
Kurk, where do your true loyalties lie? First, you mock Quanchi even more than Darth Thor and I do consistently by pretending to be his apprentice, and then you truly pledge allegiance to him? Wtf man?

Let go of your ego and irrational feelings and join us as we pursue the truth.

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Originally posted by Kurk
So you are admitting your ignorance.

One is either emotionally secure or insecure. There aren't on and off moments. When the baby has his candy he's not going to cry. When the candy gets taken away he cries until someone puts a pacifier in his mouth. Anakin to a tee right there. Countless times he freaks out in unstable situations rather than thinking rationally. We can cite these moments together if you'd like.

Plenty of 9 year olds can play with legos; not many can survive weeks in a hostile environment or the rigorous training of Sidious.

So Palpatine begging the jedi to put Anakin on the council to serve as his representative, aka spy, is indicative of some sort of achievement in your eyes? He was denied master because he was so emotionally immature and conflicted which left him especially vulnerable to Palpatine.

Anakin lost to Hondo the pirate and his pet monkey. You don't think that's embarrassing? He was naive enough to help him up from the cliff too.
Anakin was also losing to padawans. Remember Barriss Offee? He struggled with her up until the end when his emotions had to take over. A jedi half his size kicked him off a ledge. The difference here is that Maul had both of his apprentices dead from the start. Kenobi was hanging helpless and Maul played with his food for too long. Maul was about to kill Kanan if it wasn't for Tano's involvement. So at the end of the day, no Anakin's not better.

You're Quan or some of his idiocy has rubbed off on you. Not sure which. Did you just try and conflate a 9 year old playing with Legos and what Anakin accomplished? That has got to be of the worst, most disingenuous comments I've ever seen. Building and programming one of the most complex androids in the Star Wars universe as a boy is tantamount to Legos? Same with building a racing pod on your own? Please.

Again, you keep citing him having emotional outbursts like a child but say nothing else of substance. It's like hearing somebody complain that this child is a brat, unstable and emotional troubled and then learning that same boy is at MIT and going to work for JPL. Sure, he may be all that, but that hasn't stopped the boy from accomplishing vastly more than most. Same thing here. You can pontificate of how Maul isn't so unstable, but Anakin still accomplished more... now what? Or should I say who cares?

Maul was turned into a pint sized midget by a mere padawan. That is about as embarrassing as it gets. He didn't just play with his food. Kenobi at various points was bossing the fight and even partially disarmed Maul in direct saber combat. Maul ONLY got the advantage when he used the forced. Before that, he could not beat a Kenobi who was a mere padawan level. Further, Maul's reaction were pitifully slow. He was looking DIRECTLY at Kenobi hanging there. Proceed to WATCH Kenobi fly in the air .. call the saber to his hand... flip over him... Yet he was still unable to react to all of that? Pitiful.

At the end of the day, Anakin is simply better. He's accomplished more and he's beaten better. Get back to me when Maul actually accomplishes one of his goals and isn't turned into a pint sized midget. Deal?

Kt the idiocy continues. Maul beat his master so this whole padawan business has no bearing since you are ignoring the context. Maul had him disarmed after he executed his master. He taunted him unlike Anakin who had three limbs removed after Kenobi pleaded with him not to be an idiot and to jump. Anakin being the lifetime moron jumped. Hilarity ensued. He also burned. 😂

Vader lived in diminished as Palpatine's personal bitchboy stuck in a suit for the rest of his days. Maul using the force is what force users do in combat so acting as if that doesn't count is about as silly as your real life looks. Anakin used the force and couldn't gain an advantage on Kenobi in rots. Poor angry burned up guy.

Saying he's better isn't proving he's better. It's why you r always struggled in life you can't articulate your points and your retardation always flares up. At least you're consistent, dummy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Kt the idiocy continues. Maul beat his master so this whole padawan business has no bearing since you are ignoring the context. Maul had him disarmed after he executed his master. He taunted him unlike Anakin who had three limbs removed after Kenobi pleaded with him not to be an idiot and to jump. Anakin being the lifetime moron jumped. Hilarity ensued. He also burned. 😂

Vader lived in diminished as Palpatine's personal bitchboy stuck in a suit for the rest of his days. Maul using the force is what force users do in combat so acting as if that doesn't count is about as silly as your real life looks. Anakin used the force and couldn't gain an advantage on Kenobi in rots. Poor angry burned up guy.

Saying he's better isn't proving he's better. It's why you r always struggled in life you can't articulate your points and your retardation always flares up. At least you're consistent, dummy.

You of all people, looking as you do, should be the last person to bring up looks. You have never dared to post your pics (because of your looks), but unfortunately for you, somebody else did from Facebook. We all proceeded to laugh at you for days on end. So much so, that you've since refused to ever post your pic again LMAO. Smushy

You can try and excuse the loss all you want, but he was tooled by a mere padawan. His reactions are so pitiful he could even react to Kenobi, even when looking directly at him. The fact is, he was turned into a pint sized midget, and failed at his mission. Sad. While he was failing at his mission, Anakin as a young child was helping attain victory.

Maul was also Sids personal ***** boy. You aren't versed in Star Wars at all, so it's no surprising you don't know this. Look at his upbringing and his life... he was Sids b boy.

He is better based on feats, and SUBSTANTIALLY so. Maul never accomplished ANYTHING of substance his entire life. Didn't attain master, couldn't even get his place back from Dooku because he was inferior to even Dooku. Anakin on the other hand... was anointed as a counsel member. Beat Dooku, which is better than anything Dooku ever did. Ended up saving Luke by dealing with the Emperor, which in turn, saved the Galaxy for the time being. Now... list Maul accomplishments please shorty

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You of all people, looking as you do, should be the last person to bring up looks. You have never dared to post your pics (because of your looks), but unfortunately for you, somebody else did from Facebook. We all proceeded to laugh at you for days on end. So much so, that you've since refused to ever post your pic again LMAO. Smushy

#savage

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You of all people, looking as you do, should be the last person to bring up looks. You have never dared to post your pics (because of your looks), but unfortunately for you, somebody else did from Facebook. We all proceeded to laugh at you for days on end. So much so, that you've since refused to ever post your pic again LMAO. Smushy

You can try and excuse the loss all you want, but he was tooled by a mere padawan. His reactions are so pitiful he could even react to Kenobi, even when looking directly at him. The fact is, he was turned into a pint sized midget, and failed at his mission. Sad. While he was failing at his mission, Anakin as a young child was helping attain victory.

Maul was also Sids personal ***** boy. You aren't versed in Star Wars at all, so it's no surprising you don't know this. Look at his upbringing and his life... he was Sids b boy.

He is better based on feats, and SUBSTANTIALLY so. Maul never accomplished ANYTHING of substance his entire life. Didn't attain master, couldn't even get his place back from Dooku because he was inferior to even Dooku. Anakin on the other hand... was anointed as a counsel member. Beat Dooku, which is better than anything Dooku ever did. Ended up saving Luke by dealing with the Emperor, which in turn, saved the Galaxy for the time being. Now... list Maul accomplishments please shorty

I posted my own pic on here years ago. Your ignorance on all kmc related things has always been a defining character trait of yours. Ask Bada if you don't believe me you loser.

He taunted a downed opponent. He survived. You can continue to get upset and spastic over it but that doesn't change the facts. Maul bested him skill wise. Vader never beat Kenobi skill wise. Ever. Facts and they won't change.

Maul has gone on to become a rival to Sidious per his own admission. Maul rose in the galaxy to world actual power unlike Vader Sheev's personal ***** for decades. I guess being a sidekick for decades is a real accomplishment to someone as foolish as yourself. You would applaud sidekick status.
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Maul was Opress's master. This occurred in canon and your continued ignorance in all kmc related events will be your mantra till the day your pathetic heart beats it's last. He lost to Kenobi so who cares. He bested Dooku. Maul would beat him as well. Maul took on his master and was damn impressive.

Begging me for a laundry list of Maul's accomplishments because you don't know them is just another reason no one takes you seriously. Your incoherent posts and points are another recurring theme associated with your scummy screen id.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I posted my own pic on here years ago. Your ignorance on all kmc related things has always been a defining character trait of yours. Ask Bada if you don't believe me you loser.

He taunted a downed opponent. He survived. You can continue to get upset and spastic over it but that doesn't change the facts. Maul bested him skill wise. Vader never beat Kenobi skill wise. Ever. Facts and they won't change.

Maul has gone on to become a rival to Sidious per his own admission. Maul rose in the galaxy to world actual power unlike Vader Sheev's personal ***** for decades. I guess being a sidekick for decades is a real accomplishment to someone as foolish as yourself. You would applaud sidekick status.
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Maul was Opress's master. This occurred in canon and your continued ignorance in all kmc related events will be your mantra till the day your pathetic heart beats it's last. He lost to Kenobi so who cares. He bested Dooku. Maul would beat him as well. Maul took on his master and was damn impressive.

Begging me for a laundry list of Maul's accomplishments because you don't know them is just another reason no one takes you seriously. Your incoherent posts and points are another recurring theme associated with your scummy screen id.

Total and complete lies, and you know it. You were literally laughed off the forum for months. Never again to show your photo. Stop lying about what occurred.

Incorrect. I was stated by you and Kurk... that Maul accomplished more, thus as YOU SAY, "You need to prove it". That is your direct quote from multiple threads. You don't get around that by saying "if you don't know the feats, than I don't have to post them" . Doesn't work that way. If you say it does, then I'll quote you from here on out conceding you don't need to back up your claim. So I'll await your next post listing these accomplishments or I'll accept your permanent concession

He lost clownboy, and devastatingly so. It was a pitiful display to lose to a padawan like that. Who cares if he tried to take maul under his wing and teach him the ways. So what? That counts for nothing because he WAS NOTHING. Sids was the real master and completely destroyed both he and savage proving they were nobodies. Shit, Maul tried to come back to take his place back and was denied by sids. He even tried to take it by force and got beat by Dooku WHILE HE HAD HELP. Only an idiot like yourself, with no star wars knowledge would say Maul is going to beat Dooku. He tried, and Dooku casually dealt with him. Maul is bottom tier of the sith, and he's your hero, you like bottom dwellers I suppose.

So, I'll await your list of accomplishments and feats to back up your claim. if not, I'll flag the post and accept your permanent concession.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You're Quan or some of his idiocy has rubbed off on you. Not sure which. Did you just try and conflate a 9 year old playing with Legos and what Anakin accomplished? That has got to be of the worst, most disingenuous comments I've ever seen. Building and programming one of the most complex androids in the Star Wars universe as a boy is tantamount to Legos? Same with building a racing pod on your own? Please.

These traits don't make him a better warrior. He should've become a mechanic if tinkering is what he likes. Anakin wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes in Maul's position as a child that's for sure.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi

Again, you keep citing him having emotional outbursts like a child but say nothing else of substance. It's like hearing somebody complain that this child is a brat, unstable and emotional troubled and then learning that same boy is at MIT and going to work for JPL. Sure, he may be all that, but that hasn't stopped the boy from accomplishing vastly more than most. Same thing here. You can pontificate of how Maul isn't so unstable, but Anakin still accomplished more... now what? Or should I say who cares?

Maul did accomplish more. He built together the Shadow Collective ultimately leading to Sidious having to address the threat himself for once. What did Anakin do to touch that? Build C3PO? Killing Dooku with difficulty after only his fifth fight with him? Maul defeated Sidious in Saber combat during their fight. Maul is the one who went to Community College and ended up founding a successful 500 company whereas Anakin is the one who went to Princeton and ended up working at Walmart. Who's the real loser?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi

Maul was turned into a pint sized midget by a mere padawan. That is about as embarrassing as it gets. He didn't just play with his food. Kenobi at various points was bossing the fight and even partially disarmed Maul in direct saber combat. Maul ONLY got the advantage when he used the forced. Before that, he could not beat a Kenobi who was a mere padawan level. Further, Maul's reaction were pitifully slow. He was looking DIRECTLY at Kenobi hanging there. Proceed to WATCH Kenobi fly in the air .. call the saber to his hand... flip over him... Yet he was still unable to react to all of that? Pitiful.

Criticizing Maul's "slow" reaction is like saying Sidious was slow in killing the B-team and that those jedi just stood there and watched. Choreography is limited in depicting the speed of force users.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi

At the end of the day, Anakin is simply better. He's accomplished more and he's beaten better. Get back to me when Maul actually accomplishes one of his goals and isn't turned into a pint sized midget. Deal?

What makes him better?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Total and complete lies, and you know it. You were literally laughed off the forum for months. Never again to show your photo. Stop lying about what occurred.
Just more lies. You're never even close to the truth. I posted my images and everything was fine. I have no idea where or even when you believed I ran off the forum for months you long faced giraffe. Post proof then. You're never accurate about anything you ever post on due to your extremely limited and suspect intellect. You don't even know how to break down quotes throughout a post like I'm doing because you're a moron.

Incorrect. I was stated by you and Kurk... that Maul accomplished more, thus as YOU SAY, "You need to prove it". That is your direct quote from multiple threads. You don't get around that by saying "if you don't know the feats, than I don't have to post them" . Doesn't work that way. If you say it does, then I'll quote you from here on out conceding you don't need to back up your claim. So I'll await your next post listing these accomplishments or I'll accept your permanent concession

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He achieved power to rival Sidious on his own. I already cited the evidence as per Sheev's own words. If you're unfamiliar with the evidence that falls on you, giraffe face.

He lost clownboy, and devastatingly so. It was a pitiful display to lose to a padawan like that. Who cares if he tried to take maul under his wing and teach him the ways. So what? That counts for nothing because he WAS NOTHING. Sids was the real master and completely destroyed both he and savage proving they were nobodies. Shit, Maul tried to come back to take his place back and was denied by sids. He even tried to take it by force and got beat by Dooku WHILE HE HAD HELP. Only an idiot like yourself, with no star wars knowledge would say Maul is going to beat Dooku. He tried, and Dooku casually dealt with him. Maul is bottom tier of the sith, and he's your hero, you like bottom dwellers I suppose.

So, I'll await your list of accomplishments and feats to back up your claim. if not, I'll flag the post and accept your permanent concession. [/B]

You continue to spout the same nonsense ignoring the context to the scene. He skill wise bested him and did so in the clone wars animated series as well. Anakin as lord Vader lost to Kenobi skill wise.

It counts since Sidious acknowledged him as a rival he never did so to Vader. Maul survived and was not killed to date by Sidious for decades. Maul was never bested by Dooku, liar. You continue to make things up. Dooku was crushed by Anakin and humiliated by Vos. He also was held captive by mere pirates despite his force powers. Pathetic.

I cited Sheev's own words while he viewed Vader as his doormat and his son as his father's replacement. Vader just stood by as well grooming his own son to take his place. Cucking.

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Gotta say, the ongoing feud between KT and quan might be my very favorite KMC rivalry.

Some serious gems in your posts to one another. Clownshoes vs. Longface gets me every time.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Gotta say, the ongoing feud between KT and quan might be my very favorite KMC rivalry.

Some serious gems in your posts to one another. Clownshoes vs. Longface gets me every time.

What is even more amusing is he used to pm me asking for Thanos scans. He still doesn't understand the quote function or when to start a new paragraph.

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Intriguing.

What is the origin of the Longface title?