Top 5 most powerful TP users in the Star Wars universe

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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Sas, refer to the SWTORE. It says Vitiate withdrew from affairs following the end of the war at the bottom of page 161.

Regardless, Vitiate's been working on Zakuul for centuries.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Stating "our" doesn't mean "you and the entire Sith Empire," lmfao. It means Marr and Vitiate. That's what "our" means. 😐

Nah, you're totally bullshitting.

Besides operating Eternal Empire technology. 👆

Meaning what, exactly? Just because I can pick up a gun doesn't mean I know where it was made.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Regardless, Vitiate's been working on Zakuul for centuries.

Right, but that doesn't retcon the postponing of the war.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Nah, you're totally bullshitting.

Meaning what, exactly? Just because I can pick up a gun doesn't mean I know where it was made.


No, really, how does "our" not specifically mean Marr and Vitiate? Remember they have had personal chats: http://static9.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/149570/3522462-752px-teneb_kel_ontmoet_de_sith_emperor.png

There's a difference between pressing a trigger and completing an elaborate ritual that is going to cleanse an entire world and resurrect a spirit from the dead.

The latter would demand extensive knowledge on what the hell you're doing.

No, really, how does "our" not specifically mean Marr and Vitiate?

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There's a difference between pressing a trigger and completing an elaborate ritual that is going to cleanse an entire world and resurrect a spirit from the dead.

The latter would demand extensive knowledge on what the hell you're doing.

Again, the fact that I can work the gun doesn't mean I know anything about where it was made. Especially considering I plan to use the gun to revolt against it's maker, and then subsequently invade the country he abandoned forever ago.

EDIT: Conceded on the point of Vitiate still remaining somewhat involved in the Empire's affairs up until the treaty, though. I was under the impression his silence started around the time Revan was imprisoned, I forgot about Bloodlines.

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Well, Revan would recognize it's technology completely different from anything else the galaxy has ever seen, and that it's based right where Vitiate's spirit is resting. mmm

"Our history" definitely means the Sith Empire's history.

1. Valkorion
2. Revan
3. Dread Masters
4. UnuThul
5. Luke Skywalker
6. Sarasu Taalon
7. Palpatine
8. Jorus C'Baoth
9. Yoda
10. Lord Nyax

...****ing...

Darth Zannah...

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
"Our history" definitely means the Sith Empire's history.

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Well, Revan would recognize it's technology completely different from anything else the galaxy has ever seen, and that it's based right where Vitiate's spirit is resting.

So that means... He knows that Vitiate has a powerful planet-killing temple on Yavin IV that he retreats to when his body is destroyed. That doesn't mean he knew about the Eternal Empire--after all, it seems like it would be a pretty odd thing to ignore and never mention on his quest to stop Vitiate.

Also, just to confirm because I can't find the codex entry, is the ToS even Zakuul tech? Or is it just compared to the Eternal Throne because Vitiate constructed them both?

"Knowledge is power and here lays the closest technological cousin of the Eternal Empire: the Temple of Sacrifice."

Also, the fact Revan never mentions it doesn't mean it's retconned, it just means he never mentioned it.

The game never specifically stated Revan was unaware of the Eternal Empire, so acting like Revan's feats been retconned is stupid.

You don't ignore Bane's temple feat even though it was technically retconned with Shadow of Revan and the temple being destroyed.

And unlike Revan's, that one was actually retconned. 😬

Also, the fact Revan never mentions it doesn't mean it's retconned, it just means he never mentioned it.

Wait, what are you even talking about? Our original assumption was that Vitiate's silence and withdrawal from the Empire's affairs was due to Revan's influence; now we know it's not. That's the "retcon", if you will.

The game never specifically stated Revan was unaware of the Eternal Empire.

Well I mean, the game doesn't specifically state Darth Thanaton was unaware of the Eternal Empire either, but I assume he was because he never mentioned it or made any actions based on his knowledge of it. Why treat Revan differently? If he knew about the Eternal Empire, then his entire post-TOR:Revan story arc would make no sense at all.

Episode 63 timing Sas 🙂

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Episode 63 timing Sas 🙂

Damn, we finally get a glimpse of The Supreme God. Nice. 🙂

He looks ****ing sick, IMO.

It'll take either Vegito or Beerus. 🙂

Originally posted by JKBart
1. Valkorion
2. Revan
3. Dread Masters
4. UnuThul
5. Luke Skywalker
6. Sarasu Taalon
7. Palpatine
8. Jorus C'Baoth
9. Yoda
10. Lord Nyax
Why doesn't anyone else include Abeloth? She's just as much of an entity as prime Sarasu Taalon.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Wait, what are you even talking about? Our original assumption was that Vitiate's silence and withdrawal from the Empire's affairs was due to Revan's influence; now we know it's not. That's the "retcon", if you will.

Well I mean, the game doesn't specifically state Darth Thanaton was unaware of the Eternal Empire either, but I assume he was because he never mentioned it or made any actions based on his knowledge of it. Why treat Revan differently? If he knew about the Eternal Empire, then his entire post-TOR:Revan story arc would make no sense at all.


The *fact* was Vitiate's postponing of the war and the initiation of the Treaty of Coruscant was Revan's influence, which hasn't changed since no retcon has been provided. Whether or not Revan's influence was such that Vitiate was silent because of it is unknown, since the only quote you provided for it is post-Revan's release.

The distinction being Revan was in Vitiate's mind, so a direct retcon would be needed for Revan not to know.

Or, alternatively, Revan was as mistaken about his level of influence over Vitiate as he was about everything else in SOR. mmm

Well the quotes about the influence primarily come from SWTORE, not Revan.

Not to say Revan didn't enjoy boosting his ego though. 😉