Valkorion vs Darth Plagueis [Force Only]

It's not irrelevant because you're assumption that Vitiate has remained the same is incorrect. Valkorian has obviously adopted a different philosophy to his Vitiate incarnation.

I see no evidence that suggests the manner in which Valkorion uses the Force has changed tbh.

Valkorian has obviously adopted a different philosophy to his Vitiate incarnation.

And your evidence for that is... This?

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
That's obviously not the case when there's a quote confirming the entity increases in power when assuming a new form.

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Originally posted by NewGuy01
And your evidence for that is... This?

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There's a quote stating such that I remember seeing.

I'm no SWTOR wanker but I don't think we should ignore the facts.

The lack of a quote doesn't concern me. The fact that you're jumping from "he's grown more powerful," to "he's no longer a dark side entity," does.

I don't know how he employs the Force as Valkorian. It's possible he doesn't employ the Darkside.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Plagueis.

8-3. Thus far, Valkorion is utterly smacking the Muun upside the head with his fist of supremacy --- can Plagueis make a come back via his control over life and death, and Force unbalancing, or will the Church net a win over the Sheevites?

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
8-3. Thus far, Valkorion is utterly smacking the Muun upside the head with his fist of supremacy --- can Plagueis make a come back via his control over life and death, and Force unbalancing, or will the Church net a win over the Sheevites?

Plagueis is winning solidly if you weight the votes by debating skill. 🙂

And a win over Sheev's inferior is about the best said Church could hope to scrape. 🙂

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I don't know how he employs the Force as Valkorian. It's possible he doesn't employ the Darkside.

It's possible until you look at the codex entry that says otherwise.

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Originally posted by The Ellimist
It's possible until you look at the codex entry that says otherwise.

It says that Valkorian is his latest incarnation and it refers to Valkorian using the Darkside to keep himself alive for millennia when we know he hasn't been around that long meaning when it says Valkorian it refers to him as the entity in general. Similar to how a quote referring to Vader can encompass his time as Anakin or how a quote referring to Anakin doesn't necessarily refer to his time as Vader.

Or it means that Valkorion and the original Tenebrae both use the dark side and thus are interchangeable for the purposes of the statement. That would explain why they called him Valkorion.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Or it means that Valkorion and the original Tenebrae both use the dark side and thus are interchangeable for the purposes of the statement. That would explain why they called him Valkorion.

Also a viable suggestion.

Either way Valkorion is of the dark side...

Not in the former.

You said so yourself that Valkorion refers to his entity "in general" i.e. all his incarnations.

It refers to his past incarnations that did. I don't know if it refers to Valk as his current one.

It uses the name Valkorion so how can it not encompass his latest form?