Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Frankly, I don't know how someone can think a generation magically produced a being more powerful than the last 25,000 years of galaxy history three consecutive times in a row. 😂
Because it's canonically true? Well, Tenebrous isn't, but he should be pretty close to Plagueis.
A much better measure is the fact that post-Nathema ritual Vitiate was already far more powerful than the likes of Karness Muur, whom as a mere spirit was more powerful than Vong Krayt and by personal admission, Darth Vader.
Then include the fact he is stated to grow ever-increasingly in power over the thousand years until Revan, and then spends another three centuries draining the likes of Revan and his servants and gains even more power.
Then he drains Ziost, a replication of the Nathema event which 'vastly increased' his capacity as a Force user and is more powerful than ever before, as confirmed by the Codex Entries.
So Valkorion >> SWTOR Vitiate >> Revan Vitiate >> Post-Nathema Vitiate >> Karness Muur >> Spirit of Karness Muur > Vong Krayt and Darth Vader.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Not seeing how. You got a confirmation from the author?Lmfao. Infinite keks.
I'd say so given that the enitire sentence is: Odan-Urr has gone to the Force, leaving the darkest power in the galaxy to walk away with something that will make him even stronger. The context there being strength in the Force.
Kun > nexus-amped Vitiate >> Revan 👆
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Is the blurb your main reason for Plagueis > Valkorion?
Yes, but I gave additional reasoning in my post to Nai.
Because Valk isn't a Sith Lord, a Force/Sith entity, yes, but not a Sith Lord specifically. Therefore, the quote doesn't apply to him.
Holy shit, that's some reaching. But even if you want to go that route he can at best be Plagueis' equal given that they've both been confirmed to be stronger than TOR Vitiate and that's about it.
Revan still gets one-shot, though 👆
That leaves us with feats and accolades, in which, Valkorion is Plagueis' clear superior.
Valkorion isn't superior in accolades, lol.
Hm? The quote isn't dependent on "the darkest power" to be the same as "the most powerful" for it to make sense.
For example:
Odan-Urr has gone to the Force, leaving the darkest man in the galaxy to walk away with something that will make him even stronger.
Odan-Urr has gone to the Force, leaving the most evil power in the galaxy to walk away with something that will make him even stronger.
Etc., etc.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Hm? The quote isn't dependent on "the darkest power" to be the same as "the most powerful" for it to make sense.For example:
Odan-Urr has gone to the Force, leaving the darkest man in the galaxy to walk away with something that will make him even stronger.
Odan-Urr has gone to the Force, leaving the most evil power in the galaxy to walk away with something that will make him even stronger.
Etc., etc.
Obviously not, lol. But given that it clearly says darkest power and not anything else, it's obviously referring to him being the most powerful dark side user in the galaxy, and that the holocron will make him even more powerful.
Originally posted by AncientPower
A much better measure is the fact that post-Nathema ritual Vitiate was already far more powerful than the likes of Karness Muur, whom as a mere spirit was more powerful than Vong Krayt and by personal admission, Darth Vader.Then include the fact he is stated to grow ever-increasingly in power over the thousand years until Revan, and then spends another three centuries draining the likes of Revan and his servants and gains even more power.
Then he drains Ziost, a replication of the Nathema event which 'vastly increased' his capacity as a Force user and is more powerful than ever before, as confirmed by the Codex Entries.
So Valkorion >> SWTOR Vitiate >> Revan Vitiate >> Post-Nathema Vitiate >> Karness Muur >> Spirit of Karness Muur > Vong Krayt and Darth Vader.
Originally posted by AncientPower
A much better measure is the fact that post-Nathema ritual Vitiate was already far more powerful than the likes of Karness Muur, whom as a mere spirit was more powerful than Vong Krayt and by personal admission, Darth Vader.Then include the fact he is stated to grow ever-increasingly in power over the thousand years until Revan, and then spends another three centuries draining the likes of Revan and his servants and gains even more power.
Then he drains Ziost, a replication of the Nathema event which 'vastly increased' his capacity as a Force user and is more powerful than ever before, as confirmed by the Codex Entries.
So Valkorion >> SWTOR Vitiate >> Revan Vitiate >> Post-Nathema Vitiate >> Karness Muur >> Spirit of Karness Muur > Vong Krayt and Darth Vader.
I don't see what this has to do with anything.