Hulk vs. Faora/Nam-Ek

Started by KuRuPT Thanosi14 pages

Originally posted by John Murdoch
Those are good points, especially the fighter pilot ejection seat catch. The fight with Hulkbuster from AoU, IMO, really showcases Hulk's combat speed and just absolute frenetic, furious nature when he gets into a scrap. He's like a rabid dog. One of the things that Hulk keeps on Tony throughout the fight is pressure: he's on top of him on the ground, he's on top of him on the side of the building, he's on the top of him in the air.

Hulk can make Faora and Nam-Ek have a really tough day if he can
A) keep that insane level of pressure on them, and
B) get those masks compromised.

It really comes down to Hulk's speed, agility, strength, and fighting "style" being enough to combat Faora and Nam-Ek long enough to damage their suits and masks.

The two main issues I see:
- Both Faora and Nam-Ek, individually, have capabilities greater than Iron Man, and
- Hulk's fighting both of them as a team.

Solid post man. You were fair to both sides and were using logical deduction to form your opinions on the fight could play out. We could use more posters like this around here, welcome aboard.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Solid post man. You were fair to both sides and were using logical deduction to form your opinions on the fight could play out. We could use more posters like this around here, welcome aboard.

Appreciate it, KT. I'd make a good politician I guess. John Murdoch 2020.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Solid post man. You were fair to both sides and were using logical deduction to form your opinions on the fight could play out. We could use more posters like this around here, welcome aboard.
Kt trying to kiss another posters ass due to his incoherent posts and laughable reputation.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk wins but Kt is a retard.

Don't mind our resident shortbus here, we all just point and laugh at him usually

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Don't mind our resident shortbus here, we all just point and laugh at him usually
The same typical, boring response from one of the most incoherent men alive.

Originally posted by Robtard
Faora could solo Hulk. She's the fastest of the Kryptonians.
This. She takes it alone.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
This. She takes it alone.

Speed is important in a fight

I could see Hulk possibly winning one on one if he gets to smash the Kryptonian mask and overloads their senses. But even then, I'd probably still bet against him especially if it was Faora he was fighting. He stands a better chance winning against Nam-ek.

But 2 on 1, yeah I can't see him winning that one.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
This. She takes it alone.

Nah, she gets the Loki treatment

Originally posted by Robtard

Speed is important in a fight

Enhanced reaction times and perception go a lot further than normal humans being unable to react. Couple that with an exploitable weakness, that will matter even more. Feat showing Hulk shouldn't have too much issue reacting to the feat posted. The pilot was likely traveling faster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg-s_4wUgPo

Originally posted by FrothByte
I could see Hulk possibly winning one on one if he gets to smash the Kryptonian mask and overloads their senses. But even then, I'd probably still bet against him especially if it was Faora he was fighting. He stands a better chance winning against Nam-ek.

But 2 on 1, yeah I can't see him winning that one.

Nah, they both lose one v one, and convincingly

Nope, Loki was just standing there.

Hulk could never put down Thor or Hulkbuster even when bloodlusted. And your arguement has failed this entire time.

Do you ever think about these things, if you apply the same logic you try and use in the Ozy vs WS thread, that same logic here says Faora wins convincingly.

You said over and over, Ozy was faster then WS. Faora is no doubt faster then Hulk.

You have beaten yourself really.

She's no doubt faster you say? Based on what? Her blitzing normal humans? Yeah I'd hope she'd appear faster. Yet even in THAT scene Hulk reacted to somebody moving even faster in the fighter pilot ejection scene. Further, we know Thor can throw his hammer at light speed. However, let's say it was far less than let when he threw it at Hulk, cool, that is still faster than she was moving to blitz those Soldiers... Hulk caught the Hammer... thus was able to react to it.

His fight with Thor was never finished, so your theory of him being unable to put him down is sorely lacking context. Same with the IM situation, which again isn't valid to a non mindraped Hulk.. again, the fight was interrupted and Hulk was calming down before he was KO'd. Further, even in that fight, Hulk would've taken out IM if not for him dropping extra parts to replace the ones Hulk had destroyed. That isn't typical for IM.

Point is, Hulk has feats reacting to the best speed movement shown by Faora. In STARK contrast, WS never showed any feats on the level of Ozy's speed. Which again, is the point. I'm curious though, if we take your argument to its conclusion, then you'd be saying Ozy beats WS correct? You're saying I defeated my own argument here, so by proxy that would mean, if Faora can beat Hulk based on speed... Ozy beats WS according to you... Hmmmm

It has nothing to do with her blitzing humans, she was blitzing Superman. Anything else you going to ignore, or do we need another mod ruling? Every person in this thread has said you are wrong. Or is this another time where you are smarter then everyone else?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Enhanced reaction times and perception go a lot further than normal humans being unable to react. Couple that with an exploitable weakness, that will matter even more. Feat showing Hulk shouldn't have too much issue reacting to the feat posted. The pilot was likely traveling faster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg-s_4wUgPo

She's still moving at super-human speeds, regardless.

I'd also argue that catching inanimate objects (hammer and chair) moving in a singular direction towards you is easier than catching something that can think and adjust their direction. Difference between catching say a fly and a small fast moving object coming towards you.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
It has nothing to do with her blitzing humans, she was blitzing Superman. Anything else you going to ignore, or do we need another mod ruling? Every person in this thread has said you are wrong. Or is this another time where you are smarter then everyone else?

I'm not sure if reading comprehension is the issue here, or math, but you should recheck your numbers if you think everybody disagreed with me. Further, and more importantly, I'm not sure you know what a speed blitz is... Let's examine the fight you're referring to. The first action his her rushing him with a punch/shove... Problem here is.. that isn't a speed blitz, he wasn't even looking at her. Second move, she dodges a rush from him but doesn't counter but instead talks. Again, not a speed blitz. The next move, Superman rushes her and throws a normal looking punch speed wise.. she blocks and counters him. Next, Superman tries to bulrush her, she again dodges and grabs him and slams him. None of that is a true speed blitz. She doesn't attack him with her speed that he is unable to react to. He attacks her, she dodges and counters. So while she might have been able to speed blitz him, she doesn't actually do so.

I'm asking again, which speed feats of Faora, when attacking someone, was she moving faster than the fighter pilot being ejected and the Hammer toss feat? Which sequence?

Recheck my numbers? Name one person in the thread that agrees with you besides Quan.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk wins but Kt is a retard.

Originally posted by Robtard
She's still moving at super-human speeds, regardless.

I'd also argue that catching inanimate objects (hammer and chair) moving in a singular direction towards you is easier than catching something that can think and adjust their direction. Difference between catching say a fly and a small fast moving object coming towards you.

Problem is, he's shown he can react to speed. If he can perceive it, then he can react to it. It can be moving in all directions, if he can perceive it, he can perceive it. Also, we'd still be left with how faora has shown to use her speed. In almost every instance, it was direct line speed. It wasn't moving all over the place at a target. The biggest thing here, that can't be gotten around is, Faora has an exploitable weakness and Hulk will have zero issue causing damage to the mask. Once he gets a hold of her, it's loki treatment time.

Thor's hammer toss means he is moving faster then Faora..what on earth are you smoking?? The hammer was't moving at bullet speed, it was barely moving at anything that would be called super speed.

So you are lying as usual..how about you stop lying and start debating off facts.

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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Problem is, he's shown he can react to speed. If he can perceive it, then he can react to it. It can be moving in all directions, if he can perceive it, he can perceive it. Also, we'd still be left with how faora has shown to use her speed. In almost every instance, it was direct line speed. It wasn't moving all over the place at a target. The biggest thing here, that can't be gotten around is, Faora has an exploitable weakness and Hulk will have zero issue causing damage to the mask. Once he gets a hold of her, it's loki treatment time.

Cause clearly when he got ahold of Thor, it really did anything to him..again you are lying.