Why Valkorion is more powerful than Palpatine.

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Originally posted by The_Tempest
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Thank god, we can put to rest that bullshit about SWTOR being neither canon or legends and having its own special continuity

AP's clearly much too intimidated to cross me on this and too prideful to concede.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Thank god, we can put to rest that bullshit about SWTOR being neither canon or legends and having its own special continuity

?? Wait people thought this?....

It started in the Legends continuity....sooo...why wouldn't it be Legends?..

Because words are hard, man.

You mean you're trying to fall back onto irrelevant accolades long since replaced by Force and Destiny, Temp?

Content is not "replaced".

Originally posted by AncientPower
You mean you're trying to fall back onto irrelevant accolades long since replaced by Force and Destiny, Temp?

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Originally posted by The_Tempest
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Second, Force & Destiny didn't replace anything lmao.

And if that's the case, then your entire argument is stillborn since F&D also says the feats of ancient Jedi and Sith can't be taken at face value since they may very well be exaggerated and hyperbolic.

You're not ready to take me on. I've got you boxed in. Concede and take your place at my feet.

It is when the only ones relevant to both of the characters in question actually refrain from dictating to either side. It went from definitive to debatable in a very quick space of time. Even Darth Plagueis, besides a publishing blurb, fails to state definitively in the narrative whether he is or isn't the most powerful.

But that's only another facet of the argument I can make here.

It is telling that Vitiate completely absorbed and weilds the power of the largest dark side nexus the galaxy would ever see, as in larger than Sidious' 'chaotic nexus' of dark side energy.

I was ready ten years ago, or maybe you've forgotten. 😂

You aren't particularly memorable lol. Now make your case, servant.

Originally posted by AncientPower
But that's only another facet of the argument I can make here.

It is telling that Vitiate completely absorbed and weilds the power of the largest dark side nexus the galaxy would ever see, as in larger than Sidious' 'chaotic nexus' of dark side energy.

Nathema is a planet. Sidious is a person.

Spoiler:
A planet is larger than a person.

We've both undergone makeovers since those days.

Yeh, the wording is not geometrical. 😂

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Now make your case, servant.

Where is it stated that Nathema is more potent than Sidious?

And most of that went into making him immortal.

I've already begun, pray I don't finish, big G.

The Force still exists on Nathema. It's just "corrupted."

Originally posted by AncientPower
I've already begun, pray I don't finish, big G.

What you've offered thus far has been nothing short of LeGenD-tier stupidity. All I'm praying for is something better than that.

Lord Vitiate orchestrated the sorcery and the planet Mediraas was consumed by the largest dark side nexus the galaxy would ever see. When the ritual ended, Lord Vitiate emerged as the only survivor. The pain, energy, and suffering of every living entity on the planet fueled his power and would prolong his life for centuries.
- Star Wars The Old Republic: Encyclopedia
Lord Vitiate takes command of the Sith Empire, now in shambles following the Great Hyperspace War. He executes the Sith Council and consumes the life force of thousands of Sith Lords in a terrifying ritual that extends his life and vastly increases his capacity as a practitioner of the Force.
- Star Wars The Old Republic: Encyclopedia

Then he does the same thing all over again 1,300 years later at Ziost, but this time he doesn't need a ritual or any aid, or even physical form to perform it. He also drains power from the nearby star and causes power fluctuations in a space station from massive distances.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
What you've offered thus far has been nothing short of LeGenD-tier stupidity. All I'm praying for is something better than that.

You honestly think your God complex is going to work on me? Pitiful Gideon, pitiful.

My prayers go unanswered. 😬

Originally posted by AncientPower
Then he does the same thing all over again 1,300 years later at Ziost, but this time he doesn't need a ritual or any aid, or even physical form to perform it. He also drains power from the nearby star and causes power fluctuations in a space station from massive distances.

First, how does this address any of my objections?

Second, Nathema is established as the largest Force nexus, not the most potent lol. (As I said.)

Third, the SWTORE repeatedly mentions that Nathema only prolonged Vitiate's life, it didn't actually grant him immortality.

Fourth, the SWTOR website never says Vitiate destroys Ziost without ritual or aid. It says "rumors" persist of similar catastrophes, but that Ziost represents a "clear display" of such power.