Did Palpatine TKed the Lusankya?

Started by UCanShootMyNova6 pages
Originally posted by Azronger
Someone doesn't know the definition of "bury".

Someone doesn't understand the concept of a single word having multiple connotations.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Why would Sidious bury the ship himself when he has an entire Engineer Corps to do it for him? Like you understand that for the ship to have been buried beneath the planet and for the surface of that area to have retained its structural integrity they would have needed to reinforce the site with various structural supports or fill the ship. It's not as simply as "Heu. Heu. I make big hole. I put ship in hole. I put dirt back in hole. Heu. Heu."

None of this proves he didn't do it, lol.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Someone doesn't understand the concept of a single word having multiple connotations.

Link me to a dictionary which states one of the definitions of "bury" is erasing the memory of someone.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
You understand that buried has many connotations, right?

Like if someone buries someone in a debate they didn't literally dig a hole and dump the body of their opponent into it.

:/

That was a pretty dumb thing to say Syn. 😐

Originally posted by Azronger
None of this proves he didn't do it, lol.

It proves that he would have had to lift in structural supports and generally accomplish long and arduos feats of engineering with his TK when he has an entire Engineer Corps to do this sh!t for him. It makes absolutely no sense that he would do it himself. If he did just up and bury the ship in a hole he dug with TK he risks the area collapsing in on itself. Do you really think the genius planner that is Palpatine is going to risk something like that happening simply because he wanted to play with his powers?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
That was a pretty dumb thing to say Syn. 😐

Why? I'm pointing out that word doesn't always take the form of its literal definition.

Originally posted by Azronger
Link me to a dictionary which states one of the definitions of "bury" is erasing the memory of someone.

Burying someone in a debate = Beating somebody handily in a debate.

Burying a secret = Making sure a secret is kept.

This isn't that hard.

And had the Fact File said, "in a demonstration of his dark side powers, Palpatine buried the secret of the Lusankya," you'd have a point.

But maybe you're right. Maybe it really means he beat the Lusankya in a debate. mmm

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Why? I'm pointing out that word doesn't always take the form of its literal definition.
Bury within the contexts of putting an object underground has one clear connotation you complete returd. 🙂
Originally posted by The_Tempest
And had the Fact File said, "in a demonstration of his dark side powers, Palpatine buried the secret of the Lusankya," you'd have a point.

But maybe you're right. Maybe it really means he beat the Lusankya in a debate. mmm

👆

Sidious TK's the Lusankya up Valkorion's bunghole.

Heh he.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Bury within the contexts of putting an object underground has one clear connotation you complete returd. 🙂👆

Except it's not referring specifically to the ship being put beneath the ground but the matter of the ship in its entirety which would be keeping the secret of its existence.

Except it is.

He obviously didn't. Another source states the Imperial Engineers did the actual physical burying and a further source clarifies that Palpatine merely used his power to fog the minds of those watching.

Sadly, both sources are told from subjective perspectives.

Neph's assessment on the source that says Imperial engineers buried the Lusankya, when that same source said Sedriss and Ood Bnar killed each other in combat:

Originally posted by Nephthys
Ziggy proved it wasn't an objective source, it was written by a fallible scholar.

This discussion is over.

lmao

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
It proves that he would have had to lift in structural supports and generally accomplish long and arduos feats of engineering with his TK when he has an entire Engineer Corps to do this sh!t for him. It makes absolutely no sense that he would do it himself.

Welcome to Star Wars, where most things don't make sense, yet still happen, and have been happening since 1977.

If he did just up and bury the ship in a hole he dug with TK he risks the area collapsing in on itself.

So based on what would the ship itself not be able to hold the weight of a little earth on top of it?

Do you really think the genius planner that is Palpatine is going to risk something like that happening simply because he wanted to play with his powers?

Yeah, he probably would. That guy became so carefree after the Empire's formation.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Except it is.

Except it's not.

Originally posted by Azronger
Welcome to Star Wars, where most things don't make sense, yet still happen, and have been happening since 1977.

So based on what would the ship itself not be able to hold the weight of a little earth on top of it?

Yeah, he probably would. That guy became so carefree after the Empire's formation.

Except as debaters we don't just hand wave things and assume an illogical action was taken. We assume the characters acted IN CHARACTER and for Palpatine that wouldn't be carrying out a long and arduous process with TK because he felt like he wanted to exercise his power.

A little dirt? The length and width of the ship is enough that even a single foot of earth over it would weigh millions of tons. It might be able to handle that kind of a weigh on it for a time but after years it would collapse in on itself.

Carefree? He blockaded an entire planet simply because there was a powerful Force user on it.