Peak Revan vs ROTS Sidious

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Kotor3 Senior Member

Originally posted by ILS
If he fought the way he fought against Sidious, against Revan, Revan would become a puddle in his wake.

How can you reconcile the irrefutable fact that Sidious is greater than Vitiate, who is better than Revan, and then consider the notion that Revan could hold a candle to Sidious?

I guess it is not obvious that I feel differently. Sidious is greater than Mace but lost. Yoda is greater than Mace but it was a draw between him and Sidious. Your point?

Also, I disagree about the Mace comment. Sidious decided to engage purely in a saber battle something he did not have to do. There are plenty of examples of Revan using a combination of force and saber attacks in battle an approach he would most likely take in a battle with Mace.

The Ellimist The Shadow
Originally posted by ILS
Good point. Still, does Revan have comparable accolades?

I'm pretty sure he's been called greater than any Jedi who came before him, and it's not like there's any Jedi between Revan and Yoda's eras on the tier of either anyway.

Sidious obviously wins, but Revan is probably more powerful than no-vaapad Windu.

Kotor3 Senior Member

Originally posted by Trocity
Revan is clearly above the Vaders of the world imo, but he isn't on this level.

Sidious wins whilst cackling.

If Revan is above Vader, how far is Vader from ROTS Sidious?

Kotor3 Senior Member

Originally posted by The Ellimist
I'm pretty sure he's been called greater than any Jedi who came before him, and it's not like there's any Jedi between Revan and Yoda's eras on the tier of either anyway.

Sidious obviously wins, but Revan is probably more powerful than no-vaapad Windu.

So your reasoning and only reasoning it seems that Sidious wins is because he is vastly more powerful than Revan, correct?

The Ellimist The Shadow
Originally posted by Kotor3
So your reasoning and only reasoning it seems that Sidious wins is because he is vastly more powerful than Revan, correct?

More powerful and skilled, yes.

Ursumeles Traitor

Sidious without problems.

Kotor3 Senior Member

Originally posted by The Ellimist
More powerful and skilled, yes.
Fair enough. Revan's combat experience, more than makes up for any diff in power. Skill is debatable.

However, knowing Sidious he would do something stupid like take Revan lightly and put himself at a disadvantage as he did with Mace.

Tondemonai Senior Member
Originally posted by Nephthys
Based on new information, Revan.

What new information?

DarthAnt66 DarthAnt66

Originally posted by ILS
Mace is clearly better than Revan.

I'll 1v1 you on that.

Azronger Azronger Reborn

Sidious stomps.

Kotor3 Senior Member

Originally posted by Azronger
Sidious stomps.
The same way Mace stomp him?

Azronger Azronger Reborn

No, more like the same way Sidious stomped Maul and Opress.

Kotor3 Senior Member

Originally posted by Azronger
No, more like the same way Sidious stomped Maul and Opress.
I disagree. More like the battle with Mace except it would be Sidious again who would end up on the floor waiting for help.

Kotor3 Senior Member

Revan is the Ali of star wars. Feared and respected by all, took out all the big dogs of his day, taken out in his prime, took some losses and always came back stronger.

ROTS Sidious is the Tyson of star wars. Able to look invincible against the average force users but unable to take out the big dogs his day. Actually he lost against them and needed help.

Jmanghan Senior Member

Originally posted by ILS
Mace is clearly better than Revan.
Mace is definitely not.

Revan competing with Vitiate while Vitiate is amped by a Potent DS Nexus, while Revan was drugged up to hell. (Unless the effects of the drugs wore off by then)

Yeah, pretty safe to say that Revan >> Mace.

darthbane77 Senior Member

Originally posted by Nephthys
Based on new information, Revan.
This. Evidence provided by Ant, imo, solidifies Revan as on par with any version of Sidious barring DE Sidious.

Ursumeles Traitor

Originally posted by darthbane77
This. Evidence provided by Ant, imo, solidifies Revan as on par with any version of Sidious barring DE Sidious.

WHAT THE ACTUAL ****?

Deronn_solo King Yami

^^
Phucking joke of the century, lmao.

Ursumeles Traitor

I think I ninja'd you Deronn, or?

The Ellimist The Shadow

Originally posted by Kotor3
Revan is the Ali of star wars. Feared and respected by all, took out all the big dogs of his day, taken out in his prime, took some losses and always came back stronger.

ROTS Sidious is the Tyson of star wars. Able to look invincible against the average force users but unable to take out the big dogs his day. Actually he lost against them and needed help.

Peddling flimsy analogies doesn't negate the fact that, canonically, Sidious > Vitiate, and Vitiate is almost certainly more powerful than Revan.