Originally posted by darthbane77
KMC has Revan placed much lower than he should be, me, Ant and Neph seem to be the only ones that realize this.
Originally posted by The EllimistI don't keep up with all the updates for SW. I seen many quotes and debates.
Peddling flimsy analogies doesn't negate the fact that, canonically, Sidious > Vitiate, and Vitiate is almost certainly more powerful than Revan.
So to be clear. There is concrete proof that Spiderman is stronger than Captain America though various quotes and feats from multiple sources. What concrete proof do you have that Sidious is greater than Vitiate? I assuming you mean in power and combat.
Credit to ShootingNova:
The Sith have waited millennium for the birth of one who is powerful enough to return them from hiding. Darth Sidious is that one—the Sith's revenge on the Jedi order for having nearly eradicated the practitioners of the dark side of the Force.
Source: The Complete Visual Dictionary
The Sith Order, in hiding for a millennium, had awaited the birth of one who was powerful enough to return the Order to prominence. Darth Sidious was the fulfillment of that prophecy, capable of exacting the Sith's revenge on the Jedi for having nearly eradicated the practitioners of the dark side of the Force.
Source: The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia
Darth Sidious proved to be the grim culmination of a thousand years of Sith philosophy and teachings.
Source: Jedi vs Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force
For a thousand years we continued to follow Bane's Rule of Two, existing in the shadows, biding our time, growing in power, feeding our hatred. Darth Sidious proved to be the splendid culmination of a thousand years of Sith philosophy and teachings.
Source: Insider #88: Heritage of the Sith
When the Sith finally emerged from a thousand years of watching and waiting, they numbered—in accordance with the tradition set down by Darth Bane—only two. The most powerful of these was Darth Sidious, an ice-cold, diabolically calculating genius equipped with the strength of the dark side of the Force, as well as an enormous wealth of Sith artifacts, equipment, and knowledge.
Source: The Dark Side Sourcebook
Yoda went after Palpatine in the empty Senate chamber, but could not defeat the most powerful Sith Lord in history.
Source: The New Essential Chronology
Beyond the vision of the Jedi Knights, somewhere within the darkness, the greatest master of evil ever to use Sith power bides his time. As his strength grows, his plans begin to shape the course of the galaxy, and his snares await the unsuspecting.
Source: The Complete Visual Dictionary
When Yoda crosses sabers with the movie's arch-villain, he doesn't launch into a pinwheeling display of acrobatics, as he did against Count Dooku in Episode II. Instead, Yoda faces the dark side's fury, channeled by the most powerful Sith Lord in history. "Rob Coleman wanted Yoda to feel the power of his enemy," says Wheless, "like a force he's never dealt with before."
Source: Insider #86: Yoda's Right Arm
Vader imagined the power that could be his if he crushed Palpatine and established his own rule over the Empire. But first, he would need his own apprentice. By himself, he could not hope to defeat the most powerful Sith Lord the galaxy had ever known.
Source: Vader: The Ultimate Guide
When the most powerful Jedi battled against the most powerful Sith, the two sides of the Force clashed in spectacular style.
Source: Jedi Battles
Emperor Zaarin? The idea isn't as ludicrous as it sounds. Demetrius Zaarin gambled everything on an audacious coup d'état and nearly killed the most powerful Sith Lord the galaxy has ever known.
Source: Insider #66: Who's Who: Imperial Grand Admirals
With the galaxy now ripe for conquest, the Emperor has become the most powerful Sith Lord of all and a master of the Dark Side of the Force, ordering the extermination of the Jedi Order with the aid of his apprentice, the deadly Darth Vader.
Source: Legends Epic Collection: The Empire Volume 1
His power may be unparalleled in the history of the Sith.
Source: Force & Destiny
Inside the spacious interior of the Galactic Senate chamber, Yoda challenged the Emperor. The two engaged in a spectacular duel—a contest between the most powerful practitioners of the Force’s light and dark sides.
Source: The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia
Even Ulic Qel-Droma would be envious of Palpatine. He had succeeded where all others had failed in taming the Dark Side.
Source: The Dark Side Sourcebook
It quickly became clear to Luke that this decrepit and seemingly defenseless old man was masterfully adept in the ways of the Dark Side of the Force. Indeed, as Vader had warned, the Emperor had become the Dark Side's most powerful expression.
Source: Dark Empire Endnotes
When the evil Emperor, Supreme Master of the Dark Side of the Force, turned the fullness of his malevolence against Luke, Anakin Skywalker suddenly awoke from the curse that had imprisoned him for so long...
Source: Dark Empire Endnotes
As Luke's father once said, during the time he served the greatest known wielder of the Dark Side of the Force, the Emperor: "The ability to destroy a planet - or even a whole system - is insignificant next to the power of the Force."
Source: Dark Empire Endnotes
Revan has feats and accolades placing him far closer to Sidious than any of you care to admit.
@Ellimist "Honestly I'd forgotten that the protags ship was guided to Rishii, seemingly by the Force itself, which certainly does strike me as impressive, unprecedented even, if true.
This certainly is an impressive display of power, given, as you say, that Revan wasn't even intentionally doing all of this."
Revan's parity with the likes of Sheev and Lumpyhead is becoming more apparent by the day." Neph said this, so he obviously has Revan above Zannah.
Originally posted by Kotor3
I don't keep up with all the updates for SW. I seen many quotes and debates.So to be clear. There is concrete proof that Spiderman is stronger than Captain America though various quotes and feats from multiple sources. What concrete proof do you have that Sidious is greater than Vitiate? I assuming you mean in power and combat.
Google Sidious respect thread. There's a compilation of statements declaring Sidious the most powerful Sith Lord who ever lived.