Asajj Ventress vs Darth Malak

Started by Petrus5 pages

That's a testament to Anakin's power tbh.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
The TCW movie is confirmed to be mere weeks after TCW? Or are you referring to something else there.

Pretty sure TCW novel states the TCW movie is a few weeks after AotC, yeah.

I'll have to check that.

It's true.

Didn't know that. That shifts my perspective a bit.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Who?

Two of Dooku's acolytes in The New Droid Army. On separate occasions, each incapacitate Anakin with TK.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Lmfao, there's no date to the dreadnaught feat.

5 months after the Battle of Geonosis. The stuff I'm referring to takes place 10 months after the Battle of Geonosis.

Dooku couldn't dominate Anakin mere weeks after AotC.

That's TCW.

Source for the months?

Yeah, and it's Legends. 馃憜 I've been pushing for TCW to be considered Canon only, but the movement hasn't gotten enough traction for it to be a legitimate case yet.

For the dreadnought feat being five months after the Battle of Geonosis, I believe the comic itself indicates that.

The New Essential Chronology claims that Anakin's mission to Tatooine in The New Droid Army (which is when Saato incapacitates Anakin) takes place ten months after the Battle of Geonosis. Trenox does it afterwards on Coruscant.

I've also jumped on board the "TCW is canon" movement. I think we're much better off not combining it with Legends.

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Yep, the comic states that it's five months after Geonosis:

http://static8.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124590/5517398-5months.png

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And here's The New Essential Chronology placing the events of The New Droid Army as being ten months after the Battle of Geonosis:

http://static3.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124590/5517403-10months.png

So Saato and Trenox can dominate Anakin five months after his dreadnought feat, and Ventress is more powerful than them, not to mention constantly growing in power. I'm unconvinced that Malak's power edge alone is substantial enough to win this fight.

Doesn't Skywalker kill Saato the same day she chokes him unconscious, lmfao?

Seems like a blatant outlier given that's blatantly beyond Ventress' abilities in the numerous times they fought.

Not sure. It was some time afterwards, and that's all I can remember at the moment. Also, Trenox, who also Chokes Anakin out, is only later defeated by Anakin in a long duel, IIRC, per Fact File #116 or something. I mean, they don't have to be vastly more powerful than him, just more powerful than him - they might have exploited a lapse in defenses or something. Likewise, it's entirely possible to defeat more powerful enemies through saber combat, so that justifies Anakin's performance.

Anakin's blatantly beyond Ventress' abilities in later years, of course, but not necessarily within the first year of Geonosis (until the Coruscant battle, at least). There's a source that describes Anakin and Ventress fighting evenly on Yavin IV, although that's only four months after Geonosis.

My point is that Ventress is more powerful than Dreadnought-manipulating Anakin by a noticeable degree.

Malak wrecks.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Doesn't Skywalker kill Saato the same day she chokes him unconscious, lmfao?

Seems like a blatant outlier given that's blatantly beyond Ventress' abilities in the numerous times they fought.


Agreed.

Originally posted by SunRazer
My point is that Ventress is more powerful than Dreadnought-manipulating Anakin by a noticeable degree.

Yeah, and that's wrong. 馃憜 We saw them fight in OCW, and Anakin proved more powerful.

When he was enraged, yeah.

Besides, Ventress is described as constantly growing more powerful. It's entirely possible that the quote about Ventress being the most powerful acolyte is referring to 19 BBY Ventress (or right before she leaves Dooku) being more powerful than Saato and Trenox back in 22 BBY.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Two of Dooku's acolytes in The New Droid Army. On separate occasions, each incapacitate Anakin with TK
Wow, really scraping the barrel with your sources there. mmm

That said, doesn't mean Saato (or Ventress) could pull off the dreadnought feat in the slightest.

I hardly even remember the game. Somebody else made the comparison first and spread it around Comic Vine.