Originally posted by Rebel95
In a force battle, Sidious would wreck Mace. In sabers, we saw what happened. Whether Sidious let him win or not is up to interpretation.
Again, another blatantly false statement. During their fight.. Sids amped his speed... tried TK on Mace... Tried Force Lighting on Mace... ALL of these are FORCE POWAS!!! They all FAILED. This whole notion that Sids only lost a saber duel is just lies. He lost trying multiple things, and they ALL failed to win. Lucas straight out says mace "overpowered" Sids. It doesn't get any more clear. All you Sids apologists make me laugh. You just can't bare for your hero to lose, get way he lost. There isn't a single canon source above Lucas when it comes to his movie
1. He flat out says Mace overpowered him - if he indeed lost the fight by letting him win, WHY would you not say this. Why is it nowhere in the script, movie or novel? Not a single place. Yet what he DID choose to say was... Mace overpowered Sids
2. Lucas meticulously went over every line of the novel, and yet, not once did he decided to talk about a supposed huge part of the plot i.e. throwing the fight. The novel goes into much more detail about what people are thinking the movie doesn't... yet, there is nothing.
3. Further, not only did he not saying anything like that anyplace... he even gave the REASONS Mace won i.e. Vaapad and Shatterpoint. It's totally illogical that you've given reasons WHY Mace won, only to be really thinking Sids threw the fight. That is beyond retarded logic to even think that.. and yet we still have Sids apologists with Onezee's on still trying to peddle this theory.
Point is, Sids lost that fight plain and simple, no amount of making up tales of throwing fights can change that.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
AND??? So??? That's is like saying Sids can only win with Juyo... Vaapad HIS form. He can use it whenever he is in a fight. Period.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Again, another blatantly false statement. During their fight.. Sids amped his speed... tried TK on Mace... Tried Force Lighting on Mace... ALL of these are FORCE POWAS!!! They all FAILED. This whole notion that Sids only lost a saber duel is just lies. He lost trying multiple things, and they ALL failed to win. Lucas straight out says mace "overpowered" Sids. It doesn't get any more clear. All you Sids apologists make me laugh. You just can't bare for your hero to lose, get way he lost. There isn't a single canon source above Lucas when it comes to his movie1. He flat out says Mace overpowered him - if he indeed lost the fight by letting him win, WHY would you not say this. Why is it nowhere in the script, movie or novel? Not a single place. Yet what he DID choose to say was... Mace overpowered Sids
2. Lucas meticulously went over every line of the novel, and yet, not once did he decided to talk about a supposed huge part of the plot i.e. throwing the fight. The novel goes into much more detail about what people are thinking the movie doesn't... yet, there is nothing.
3. Further, not only did he not saying anything like that anyplace... he even gave the REASONS Mace won i.e. Vaapad and Shatterpoint. It's totally illogical that you've given reasons WHY Mace won, only to be really thinking Sids threw the fight. That is beyond retarded logic to even think that.. and yet we still have Sids apologists with Onezee's on still trying to peddle this theory.
Point is, Sids lost that fight plain and simple, no amount of making up tales of throwing fights can change that.
And please don't call me a Sidious apologist, I'm far from it. I think he's overrated.
Originally posted by Ursumeles
Yes, he can. Usually it doesn't helps him that much, tho. He had an circumstancial-amp against Sidious. And Sidious could've blitzed him.
More BS that I need to crush eh. Sids DID try and blitz him... He blitzed the other 3 masters. The novel explicitly states Sids amped his speed and that Mace had to further go into Vaapad to combat this. He did tried to blitz Mace, it just didn't work. Anything else?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Ummm great, so now you're trying to eliminate standard equipment for a Jedi? Laughable. Sids lost, and tried a variety of force powers to win. They all failed. Mace made him his b1tch
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
More BS that I need to crush eh. Sids DID try and blitz him... He blitzed the other 3 masters. The novel explicitly states Sids amped his speed and that Mace had to further go into Vaapad to combat this. He did tried to blitz Mace, it just didn't work. Anything else?
Totally untrue. Maybe you've never been in fight where there is total melee going on around you. It's much easier to defend yourself, than it is to defend your buddy. Clearly he couldn't Blitz Mace... he tried. Or unless you want to get even more illogical and go... yeah he used his speed at first... but when he saw only Mace was left... he toned it down. Not only would tha need proof, it goes against what the novel explicitly states.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
yeah he used his speed at first... but when he saw only Mace was left... he toned it down. Not only would tha need proof, it goes against what the novel explicitly states.
It is stated that Palpatine killed the three Jedi before Windu could properly react - Windu's initial defensive moves prior to Fisto's death were likely pure instinct.
Once Windu adjusted to the situation, however, it's pretty evident Palpatine couldn't instantly discard him with a lightsaber.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Guys, let's tone it down. 😬
Don't mind Quan... he doesn't even know how to define Evil... want a laugh.. this is his definition of evil
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it isn't. Evil is being selfish and taking no one else into account other than yourself. Voldemort was only about himself whereas Sidious was about his point of view and doing what he felt was best for the Galaxy. He also freely promoted someone he believed would become more powerful than himself.Voldemort would make this guy shit his pants.
He's just made I made fun of him for not even knowing what a basic word like that means.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Don't mind Quan... he doesn't even know how to define Evil... want a laugh.. this is his definition of evilHe's just made I made fun of him for not even knowing what a basic word like that means.
"He's just made I made." Kt, ladies and gentleman.
He is being educated in another thread in which a non Star Wars uber fan had to correct him over Tarkin and the Death Star from ANH.
He's just made I made.
😂