Tangent Superman vs Blue Marvel

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Except,as Cage's father says - their minds were still their own. He still gets nightmares from the memories. Their bodies were no longer theirs - they would want to scream, but are unable to.

So, mentally, they weren't being controlled. Physically, yes.

Which is what I'm trying to say, which is why I am saying it's completely different.

With regards to energy manip feats - I am NOT debating by powerset. In character, as I have said, TS uses TP a lot. I mean, he has what, two, three appearances? In every one of them, he uses TP. BM, doesn't.

You aren't arguing power set? That appears to be exactly what you're doing here, while covering with TS only has this many appearances to fall back on. If Blue Marvel has the ability to break free on control effects even if they differ from the control effects that he broke free from, it was very well likely to be due to his control over energy. What are brain signals if not energy? This will most likely become a physical battle that Adam would win. BM wins.

Originally posted by Stoic
You aren't arguing power set? That appears to be exactly what you're doing here, while covering with TS only has this many appearances to fall back on. If Blue Marvel has the ability to break free on control effects even if they differ from the control effects that he broke free from, it was very well likely to be due to his control over energy. What are brain signals if not energy? This will most likely become a physical battle that Adam would win. BM wins.

As shown, he broke free of physical control. Not mental control. Its akin to breaking free of cables or chains - as shown by Luke's dad, a normal human.

Their minds were still their own, they were just trapped in their bodies.

Which means their minds weren't their own. Movement starts with the mind.

With that (tp) out of the equation, and it is, BM wins a physical battle.

Originally posted by riv6672
Which means their minds weren't their own. Movement starts with the mind.

With that (tp) out of the equation, and it is, BM wins a physical battle.

Oh, but they wanted to.

They just couldn't.

It's akin to being chained down. If Spiderman webs someone up and stops them from moving, even though they want to....you can hardly say he is using a TP attack.

And if said victim manages to overpower the immobilisation, and actually move their limbs...you can hardly say they are TP immune.

Like i said, movement starts with the mind. Your chained down analogy just doesnt hold water, sorry.
I can post half a dozen links that describe how the brain works as relates to movement, but that wont change any minds (no pun).
Heck of a thread, though.

So, BM can resist TK and every telepathic in comics, just because he has that one feat? Lol

I don't think they are claiming that, but don't agree with the assertion it's a telepathy resistance feat

Originally posted by Zack M
So, BM can resist TK and every telepathic in comics, just because he has that one feat? Lol

Thats where we're at, and will be at, 5 pages from now.

Originally posted by riv6672
And TS can best every character in comics, because he has TP. Lol

Thats where we're at, and will be at, 5 pages from now.

He tossed Superman like a ragdoll in their crossover. I'd put Superman over BM. Your one feat isn't enough.