Originally posted by Silent Master
By the way does anyone else find it amusing that when I point out that h1 may want to re-watch the movie because he's missed a lot of context his response is "no, you re-watch the movie".
I gave true instances where it took Ip man multiple hits to take fighters down. To me that's weak striking. Because it takes multiple hits to equal one strong hit. A strong striker would simply one shot ko every opponent whenever they get serious.
We see Miyagi break bottles and a tree. Nowhere does Ip Man has a greater striking feat than those, even when he gets serious.
Originally posted by h1a8
I gave true instances where it took Ip man multiple hits to take fighters down. To me that's weak striking. Because it takes multiple hits to equal one strong hit. A strong striker would simply one shot ko every opponent whenever they get serious.We see Miyagi break bottles and a tree. Nowhere does Ip Man has a greater striking feat than those, even when he gets serious.
I get that you're basing your arguments on who you personally like better, but the level of bias you're showing here is close to awe inspiring.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Watch proper kyudo videos and then come back to me once you're better educated.
real life stuff doesnt matter in a forum fight. feats are all what matters here
ip man was unable to dodge twisters punches wich are much slower than arrows shot from a half draw low power bows 😂
come back when ip man doesnt get punched by slow@$$ twister 😂
Originally posted by Dexx-Planet86
real life stuff doesnt matter in a forum fight. feats are all what matters hereip man was unable to dodge twisters punches wich are much slower than arrows shot from a half draw low power bows 😂
come back when ip man doesnt get punched by slow@$$ twister 😂
So you agree that Ip man wins, good.
Originally posted by h1a8im with u h1. Arrow catching feats from bows that shoot arrows around 80mph are fake and shouldnt even be mentioned.
No it's not.
All the arrow catching I saw was fake. The arrow was shot very slow from a long distance. The arrow appeared to be traveling less than 80mph.In reality, it's humanly impossible to catch an arrow. Arrows travel faster than 220mph.
Average human reactions are 0.215 of a second. This is not quick enough to catch an arrow from 30ft away. Miyagi showed SUPERHUMAN SPEED AND REACTIONS. Ip Man never showed superhuman speed or reactions.
Originally posted by Raptor22
im with u h1. Arrow catching feats from bows that shoot arrows around 80mph are fake and shouldnt even be mentioned.
Are you with h1 in his extremely biased belief that Miyagi would beat Ip man?
Originally posted by Silent Masteroh dear god no. Dont know if u watched the video from the link i posted but it showed a guy comparing the arrow speed between a yumi bow (the same style used to fire the arrow at miyagi) and an english long bow using a high speed camera, and the yumi clocked in at a whopping 76 mph.
Are you with h1 in his extremely biased belief that Miyagi would beat Ip man?
So like h1 himself says, its not very impressive.
Originally posted by Raptor22
oh dear god no. Dont know if u watched the video from the link i posted but it showed a guy comparing the arrow speed between a yumi bow (the same style used to fire the arrow at miyagi) and an english long bow using a high speed camera, and the yumi clocked in at a whopping 76 mph.So like h1 himself says, its not very impressive.
And that's done with a yumi of decent draw weight and a full kyudo draw. Whereas the bow used to shoot Miyagi would have questionable draw weight plus the guy shooting it never got to full draw.
Originally posted by FrothByteyep. But im sure that some excuse will be given to play it off, like the feathes on the arrows in the miyagi scene were imbued with the speed force which tripled their velocity or some such.
And that's done with a yumi of decent draw weight and a full kyudo draw. Whereas the bow used to shoot Miyagi would have questionable draw weight plus the guy shooting it never got to full draw.
Originally posted by h1a8
Miyagi casually caught an arrow. That requires tremendous reflexes and hand speed. To pretend it doesn't is trolling.Miyagi broke 4 bottles of beer at their top without knocking over the bottles. That takes some speed of sound hand speed.
Ip Man has never taken hits from powerful foes without getting getting seriously messed up. His durability is very questionable.
But s that's irrelevant.
You are ignoring the fact that Miyagi WILL NOT ATTACK FIRST.
This will put the fight in his advantage.
if we are talking about movie feats breaking a bottle with a hand strike without knocking it over is not that impressive, mas oyama (kyokushin founder) casually does that on a regular basis
ip man tanked shots from powerful foes w/o receiving any life threatening injuries makes his durability more impressive
miyagi is slow as shit, as someone already mentioned here the antagonist of the movie scorpion king caught an arrow but still defeated by a slow-ass brick of a protagonist, if the rock outclassed a guy who supposedly a one fast mofo then ip man will destroy miyagi.
Originally posted by 950Killer
if we are talking about movie feats breaking a bottle with a hand strike without knocking it over is not that impressive, mas oyama (kyokushin founder) casually does that on a regular basisip man tanked shots from powerful foes w/o receiving any life threatening injuries makes his durability more impressive
miyagi is slow as shit, as someone already mentioned here the antagonist of the movie scorpion king caught an arrow but still defeated by a slow-ass brick of a protagonist, if the rock outclassed a guy who supposedly a one fast mofo then ip man will destroy miyagi.
It's humanly impossible to break bottles without liquid in them. Everyone who did it had liquid in them.
What are life threatening injuries? Injuries where you are sure to die? Or injuries that if more is inflicted on you then will you die?
Ip Mans durability is weak. He gets hurt very easily. Humans are not supposed to die when getting hit by other humans. Especially in movies.
Miyagi showed superhuman reflexes and speed when he caught the arrow. That defeats he is slow as shit argument.
Also, he casually dodged and parried very fast strikes from karate masters. This is consistent with the arrow feat.
But you are not understanding that none of this means anything since the argument is that Miyagi will win because Ip man will attack first. Miyagi will parry and counter.