Originally posted by FrothByteNo human can move their hands faster than 70mph.
1. You have no proof that humans can't break the tops off empty bottles
2. Even if what you say is true, then we know those bottles weren't empty since Miyagi is only human and there's no evidence to prove he's superhuman.
This discussion about whether the bottles are empty is meaningless if you believe it doesn't help Miyagi's case anyway. If you don't then argue from there.
Originally posted by h1a8
No human can move their hands faster than 70mph.This discussion about whether the bottles are empty is meaningless if you believe it doesn't help Miyagi's case anyway. If you don't then argue from there.
And you have no proof that you need hand speed of 70 mph to break the top off a bottle.
Originally posted by h1a8
Far more than 70mph. I have evidence. A pellet gun.
Lets throw away numbers. Faster than humanly possible.
Just because a pellet gun can break beer bottles doesn't mean that that's the minimum required speed. You're also not taking into consideration the amount of mass behind a person's hand compared to the tiny mass of a pellet.
Try again.
Originally posted by h1a8
No human can move their hands faster than 70mph.This discussion about whether the bottles are empty is meaningless if you believe it doesn't help Miyagi's case anyway. If you don't then argue from there.
Prove that no human can move their hands faster than 70mph and then prove that it takes more than 70mph hand speed to break an empty bottle.
Originally posted by FrothByteThis proves that you don't actually read my posts. I'm really tired of explaning things over and over. The hand has more mass but it's softer and has more give. These things cancel somewhat. Anyway, it takes faster than human speed to achieve.
Just because a pellet gun can break beer bottles doesn't mean that that's the minimum required speed. You're also not taking into consideration the amount of mass behind a person's hand compared to the tiny mass of a pellet.Try again.
Originally posted by h1a8
This proves that you don't actually read my posts. I'm really tired of explaning things over and over. The hand has more mass but it's softer and has more give. These things cancel somewhat. Anyway, it takes faster than human speed to achieve.
So basically you're just guessing. You don't really know what's the minimum velocity needed for a hand to cut off the top of a bottle. Can you at least post a vid of a pellet gun breaking off only the top of an empty beer bottle?
Originally posted by FrothByte
So basically you're just guessing. You don't really know what's the minimum velocity needed for a hand to cut off the top of a bottle. Can you at least post a vid of a pellet gun breaking off only the top of an empty beer bottle?
You still don't read my posts. I said forget about numbers. It's takes a speed faster than a human.
Originally posted by h1a8
You still don't read my posts. I said forget about numbers. It's takes a speed faster than a human.
And I asked you to prove it, or do you think we should just believe anything you say as if it were fact?
And I'm still waiting for you to show me a pellet cutting off the tops of empty beer bottles.
Also, it seems you said "forget about numbers" when you realized you actually didn't know the required velocity for a hand to break off bottle necks.
Originally posted by FrothByteThat's like asking me to prove that a human can't lift above 20tons.
And I asked you to prove it, or do you think we should just believe anything you say as if it were fact?And I'm still waiting for you to show me a pellet cutting off the tops of empty beer bottles.
Also, it seems you said "forget about numbers" when you realized you actually didn't know the required velocity for a hand to break off bottle necks.
No human was shown to do it. Plus if it was possible then at least one demonstration would have been with empty bottles.
I don't have a pellet gun. I had one as a child. I bust plenty of bottles with them. Just ask anyone online (yahoo ask) and they will tell you a pellet gun can easily break bottle tops.
Nevermind here's a video of a BB gun
youtu.be/2S2DuUIxFFs
Originally posted by h1a8
That's like asking me to prove that a human can't lift above 20tons.No human was shown to do it. Plus if it was possible then at least one demonstration would have been with empty bottles.
I don't have a pellet gun. I had one as a child. I bust plenty of bottles with them. Just ask anyone online (yahoo ask) and they will tell you a pellet gun can easily break bottle tops.
Nevermind here's a video of a BB gun
youtu.be/2S2DuUIxFFs
You showed a video of a bb gun breaking a bottle. That's not what I asked for. I can do the same thing with my fist. You're being anal about breaking only the top part of the bottle, so show me a vid of a bb gun only cutting off the neck of a bottle.
And so again I've proven that you actually have no proof in your assertions. You think that just because you can't find a youtube video of some guy breaking empty bottles that that's proof it can't be done? What a load of crap. News flash for you, not everyone posts vids on youtube. Pretty sure majority of people don't posts their vids on youtube. And while it's certainly possible that humans can't decapitate empty bottles, to say that your proof is simply because you can't find videos of them is just plain stupid and shows how little you understand of the word "proof".
Originally posted by Zenwolf
What in the world are you guys even arguing about?
H1 is asserting that Miyagi has superhuman hand speed because he was able to break the top off of 3 beer bottles. When we posted vids of regular martial artists doing the same feat H1 started insisting that Miyagi broke the tops off empty bottles, whereas every video shown of real people doing the same feat had some liquid inside the bottles.
Then when asked to prove that the bottles Miyagi hit were empty (because you literally can't tell if they were empty or not)... he fails to prove his stance.
Now he's claiming that you need over 70 mph hand speed to accomplish the feat - a number which I'm asking him to prove.
Originally posted by FrothByteIf you not going to troll me then please read my entire post, not some of it. I addressed your concern in the 3rd paragraph. Please read it and stop trolling me.
You showed a video of a bb gun breaking a bottle. That's not what I asked for. I can do the same thing with my fist. You're being anal about breaking only the top part of the bottle, so show me a vid of a bb gun only cutting off the neck of a bottle.And so again I've proven that you actually have no proof in your assertions. You think that just because you can't find a youtube video of some guy breaking empty bottles that that's proof it can't be done? What a load of crap. News flash for you, not everyone posts vids on youtube. Pretty sure majority of people don't posts their vids on youtube. And while it's certainly possible that humans can't decapitate empty bottles, to say that your proof is simply because you can't find videos of them is just plain stupid and shows how little you understand of the word "proof".
Originally posted by Zenwolf
What in the world are you guys even arguing about?
Miyagi broke the tops off 3 empty beer bottles with a chop. This takes superhuman hand speed. No human has done this. Counter videos were shown with the bottles FILLED with liquid. This is not the same thing. Froth is now lying about that videos were shown with martial artists doing the same thing.
I proved the bottles were empty. Froth refused to address the points of my proof. In reality, it's common sense that the bottles were empty and Froth is trolling by asking for proof.
Originally posted by h1a8
Miyagi broke the tops off 3 empty beer bottles with a chop. This takes superhuman hand speed. No human has done this. Counter videos were shown with the bottles FILLED with liquid. This is not the same thing. Froth is now lying about that videos were shown with martial artists doing the same thing.
Prove it.