Speed Force vs Power Cosmic

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
There are several tricks.

Accelerating the neurons in the brain:
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee305/Wally_Respect3/spedbraishift.jpg

Oh, and speedforce constructs:
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/speeforsuit3.jpg

That responds to his thoughts:
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/speair.jpg

Then there's the speedsteal, which Wally doesn't even need to touch in order to use:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/145371/2950485-speedstealdistance.jpg

Plus BFR into the speedforce, time travel etc...

Other tricks, like becoming intangible:
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/undegrovi.jpghttp://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/undegrovi2.jpg

Being immune to magic:
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/suvkad.jpg

Electrical powers:
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/elctromag2.jpg

Speed LENDING:
http://i.imgur.com/9G2Eh0v.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/t8jQudP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/k2v9qIg.jpg

Or using speed lending to become a lightspeed machine gunner:
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/thourock.jpg

Basic matter manip:
http://i.imgur.com/tEWvbXo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MFt9J8m.jpg

Healing from having a hole blasted through you:
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee305/Wally_Respect3/accecel.jpg

Oh, and he can plan all of this out whenever he wants:
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/FlashV2229page15.jpg

It's mainly the speed, for me. Sure, the PC can also accelerate me to have fast reflexes, but let's keep things simple.

What do you think the possibility that SS could manipulate the Speed Force?

Originally posted by golem370
What do you think the possibility that SS could manipulate the Speed Force?

Minuscule. It chooses you, not the other way around, IIRC.

Originally posted by golem370
What do you think the possibility that SS could manipulate the Speed Force?

of course he can, captain atom has.

Cap didn't manipulate speed force.

Surfer manipulating speed force is unlikely to say in the least.

depends on the level of each you're talking about. take the PC to its end and you have galactus--basic reality manipulation, uber levels of psionic abilities and cosmic awareness. all those abilities come with using the PC effectively. even ss has all those powers, just at a lower level. meanwhile, take the sf to its end and you have wally. def powerful. but a universal level force? not quite....

sounds like lots of people are comparing ss's level of pc with wally. but pc doesn't end with ss. seems like most are comparing ss/wally. that's not what this thread is asking. at it's highest levels, hard not to say pc>sf in most ways. /shrug

I'd go Power Cosmic.

Infinit Mass punch Means to punch somebody with the force of the universe he should be able to knock superboy prime out and anybody whos not stronger than the universe

To clarify when somebody enters hyperspace can they then hit someone with the equivalent of infinite mass?

No.

I thought Infinite Mass had something to do with the mass of an object traveling the speed of light.

Originally posted by golem370
I thought Infinite Mass had something to do with the mass of an object traveling the speed of light.

I don't think entering hyperspace is quite the same thing in DC. For the IMP, it's just hitting someone at insane speeds, at least at the speed of light.

Also for all the people who wonder why Flash doesn't do these thousands of IMP feats, when he does do it to a Martian he does remark he *could* do that if he wanted.

But still I feel like if the power cosmic leads to mexican bondage parties then how does one NOT choose the PC?

I just don't understand what's appealing about the speed force.

The powers are great for forum battling, but shit for everything else.

Originally posted by golem370
I thought Infinite Mass had something to do with the mass of an object traveling the speed of light.

It does. In normal physics. But the whole point of hyperspace is that normal physical laws don't apply.

Originally posted by krisblaze
I just don't understand what's appealing about the speed force.

The powers are great for forum battling, but shit for everything else.

Yeah, plus Surfer seems functionally immortal.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It does. In normal physics. But the whole point of hyperspace is that normal physical laws don't apply.

But if Some can travel at lightspeed they hit with infinite mass right?

Originally posted by golem370
But if Some can travel at lightspeed they hit with infinite mass right?

Should be, depending on how they travel.

Originally posted by "Id"
None of the above. Give me Psionics ala Plutonian, X-Man, Sentry.

Seconded.

Power cosmic

Silver Surfer can do basically anything, including simulating Flash's powers to the point they are almost indistinguishable plus retaining his own powers on top of them.

Well if we can just "lol nope" the choices given and choose our own then I'd just choose reality warping.