Spartans (300) vs Orcs (Warcraft)

Originally posted by Robtard
Kurupt, why can't you "atotuvkate" your points!? You big dummy!

Anyhow, you're not representing the WC Orcs fairly, imo. They're far above the Spartans in strength, ridiculously so. The Spartans might win the first round if they're able to kill enough Orcs with thrown spears before the horde crashes into their phalanx, but they're suffering heavy casualties for that win.

Round 2 and 3, I think we all agree the Orcs take this one.

So here's a question: Whom would you consider stronger between the Warcraft orcs and the big Persian "giant" that Leonidas fought?

I said throwing people or striking people!! It was both and I clearly said both. So again, and I want you to explain this logic to me. So Persian can smack people further without a weapon, but he can't toss a horse that other people were shown doing who didn't strike as far? Explain that logic to me.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I said throwing people or striking people!! It was both and I clearly said both. So again, and I want you to explain this logic to me. So Persian can smack people further without a weapon, but he can't toss a horse that other people were shown doing who didn't strike as far? Explain that logic to me.

Unless you can come up with a clip that proves otherwise, that persian never "smacked" people and sent them flying. He tossed Leonidas once a few feet away, not even as far as Blackhand tossed Lothar one-handed (and this considering Lothar was in full armor). Then that Persian kicked another Spartan but only about as far as Blackhand was able to throw a horse. Kicking a man X amount of distance is not quite as impressive as tossing a horse at roughly the same distance.

So unless you come up with solid evidence of this persian actually "smacking" people further away than Warcraft orcs do, then you're basing your entire argument on made up stuff.

Originally posted by FrothByte
So here's a question: Whom would you consider stronger between the Warcraft orcs and the big Persian "giant" that Leonidas fought?

Unless I'm misremembering 300, the Immortal giant has some degree of superhuman strength as he was stronger than Leonidas who in turn was some degree above a normal human.

But I don't recall the giant ever doing a feat of strength that comes close to picking up and tossing an armoured (it was armoured?) warhorse like one would toss a bag of flour. You're looking at around 1,500-2,200lbs, depending on the breed and gear.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Unless you can come up with a clip that proves otherwise, that persian never "smacked" people and sent them flying. He tossed Leonidas once a few feet away, not even as far as Blackhand tossed Lothar one-handed (and this considering Lothar was in full armor). Then that Persian kicked another Spartan but only about as far as Blackhand was able to throw a horse. Kicking a man X amount of distance is not quite as impressive as tossing a horse at roughly the same distance.

So unless you come up with solid evidence of this persian actually "smacking" people further away than Warcraft orcs do, then you're basing your entire argument on made up stuff.

Ummm Okay, I don't even know what to say to that. The kick was clearly and decisively further in both distance and elevation. Elevation wasn't even close. To even think those were comparable is funny to me. We can proceed no further.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Ummm Okay, I don't even know what to say to that. The kick was clearly and decisively further in both distance and elevation. Elevation wasn't even close. To even think those were comparable is funny to me. We can proceed no further.

Are you saying launching a human with a kick is more impressive than lifting a horse over your head and tossing it?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Are you saying launching a human with a kick is more impressive than lifting a horse over your head and tossing it?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Are you saying launching a human with a kick is more impressive than lifting a horse over your head and tossing it?

Frothmode eh? I said nothing of the sort. Holy crap. We are discussing which went further because you said they were nearly the same in distance. To which I've clearly disagreed with.

Orcs wins

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Frothmode eh? I said nothing of the sort. Holy crap. We are discussing which went further because you said they were nearly the same in distance. To which I've clearly disagreed with.

No, you said the Persian Orc had numerous feats of "smacking" Spartans further than the Orcs in Warcraft did. We have just proven that there are no such feats. The persian had 1 feat where he tossed Leonidas a few feet away which is roughly the same distance Blackhand tossed Lothar away... except that Lothar was in full armor whereas Leonidas was not.

The persian had one good feat where he kicked a man a good distance, but since the Warcraft orcs have no feat of kicking someone into the air then you can't really use your so called "scaling" anymore. Blackhand does have a feat of throwing a horse a good distance which overwhelmingly trumps the Persian's kick feat.

In the end, you have no proof to backup your claim that the Persian is stronger than the Warcraft orcs.

Originally posted by Igniz
Orcs wins

The Orcs were much larger and stronger and quite a bit faster than the opposing human forces in Warcraft.

All the Spartans come back on their shields, not with them, and I'd say that's the case for all three rounds. Some spear tosses and well-placed spear thrusts might get them a victory with heavy losses in round 1.