Knightfall Vader vs. RotJ Vader

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Oh for God's sake, he obviously meant his power has grown.

Or maybe he meant that he isn't the fussy dumbass he once was?
Also, this is the opinion of Obi-Wan, who likely never felt Anakin's true power.
If ge go by this, Mace thinks that Anakin could be > Yoda, who was an equal to RotS Sidious, who is stated to be > Vader.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Aren't these both Canon feats? 😂

Neither of them are more impressive than moving a dreadnought at the speed of a missile, though.

Also, the fact his power "matured" just means he has greater control over it, not that he has more of it.

Just for the record, Anakin has far more quotes putting him above Yoda than Vader does putting him above Anakin. That's not even considering the circumstances of the Vader accolades, in which case pretty much all of them become invalidated.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Or maybe he meant that he isn't the fussy dumbass he once was?
Also, this is the opinion of Obi-Wan, who likely never felt Anakin's true power.
If ge go by this, Mace thinks that Anakin could be > Yoda, who was an equal to RotS Sidious, who is stated to be > Vader.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Also, the fact his power "matured" just means he has greater control over it, not that he has more of it.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Just for the record, Anakin has far more quotes putting him above Yoda than Vader does putting him above Anakin. That's not even considering the circumstances of the Vader accolades, in which case pretty much all of them become invalidated.

Originally posted by Rebel95
Vader pulling a freighter out of the sky and tearing apart an ATAT are just two examples that I believe are beyond Anakin's ability, unless enraged and tapping into his raw power.

I'm busy for the rest of the day. I'll respond tomorrow maybe

Those feats are overrated. The freighter's engines had been compromised by Sidious' lightning and so it offered far less resistance to Vader's manipulation.

He also never tore apart the ATAT:

Would he have eventually? Maybe. Probably. Collapsed it, at the least. The feat is still rather blown out of proportion, though.

^ That's not blown out of proportion at all. He not only stopped it stepping on him, but froze it and began tearing it apart. And we know how tough those At-At's are.

It's also the "biggest" TK feat in Canon.

Also notice how 2/3 legs are in the air so he's probably also partially lifting it

Originally posted by Rebel95
Either way, his power grew. That's what it says.
And lol at thinking Obi Wan never felt Anakin's true power.

Also, Ankin was only serious after Kenobi was taken out in the Dooku fighz, and as he slaughtered the Jedi.

Originally posted by Ursumeles

Also, Ankin was only serious after Kenobi was taken out in the Dooku fighz, and as he slaughtered the Jedi.

Doesn't matter. Kenobi knew his power well, which is why he probably spent half of that 10 years of training teaching him to hold back and surpress his rage.

And even during TCW, he'd seen Ani go toe to toe with Dooku on numerous occasions, in a way Kenobi wasn't really capable of.

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Also notice how 2/3 legs are in the air so he's probably also partially lifting it

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Force feats for Vader > Anakin?

Not instantly dying to Sidious' Lightning kiddo

Anakin really has nothing on that featwise *shrugs*

You can debate accolades all day

The internet hasn't been in agreement since RotS first aired

But in terms of feats, having the full power of Sidious inflicted upon him and not instantly dying is better than anything Anakin Skywalker did as a Jedi

The novel states Palpatine's power was spread in every direction. And it wasn't his "full power" regardless.

So nah.

And didn't one of the FotJ books imply Vader went into Oneness to kill Sheev... Besides, if Mace or Dooku can do it: so can Annie.

IIRC, Jacen mused that in TUF.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Nope. It isn't. It said his power matured, lmao.

Also, Ankin was only serious after Kenobi was taken out in the Dooku fighz, and as he slaughtered the Jedi.

That doesn't mean he never sensed Anakin's power. He trained Anakin for over 10 years, he obviously knew what he was capable of.

Nope, not power-wise, lmfao.

Yeah...and given that Anakin grew from getting destroyed by Dooku, to statlemating Dooku in less than 3 years, to absolutely dominating Dooku in a few months, I would say that he don't must have felt his power.

"As his grandfather had done, he had broken through the apparent opposites that concealed the absolute nature of the Force, and found his way into an unseen unity that existed beyond the seeming separateness of the world. For a moment all the cosmic tumblers had clicked into place, and light and dark sides became something he could balance within himself, without having to remain on one side or the other."

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