Knightfall Vader vs. RotJ Vader

Originally posted by Rebel95
Pretty much the same thing, not sure what's so hard to understand about that. If something matures it tends to be an improvement..

That doesn't mean he never sensed Anakin's power. He trained Anakin for over 10 years, he obviously knew what he was capable of.

Face it: You don't want to debate me in Anakin vs Vader because you know you'd lose.

Can you post the quotes

I don't have time to spend on a full on debate with you and I don't really care enough.

"Skywalker is arguably the most powerful Jedi alive, and he is still getting stronger." - Mace Windu

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"Gillard also reports that the duel will explain how Obi-Wan is able to defeat his protege, even though Anakin has been established as the most powerful Jedi who ever lived. 'Obi-Wan taught Anakin and Anakin has gone past him,' he notes. 'But when you get to that duel, it's emotional. That's where the mistake will be made. And if you know the characters, you know Obi-Wan isn't going to get emotional and he doesn't make mistakes.'" - The Making of Revenge of the Sith

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"'I'm more powerful than any of you (the Jedi Council).' It was a boy's expression of anger, but it was true." - Jacen Solo

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"Clearly Anakin was as strong in the Force as any Jedi who had ever sat on the Council. But as Obi-Wan had told him time and again, the essence of being a Jedi didn't hinge on attaining mastery of the Force, but on attaining mastery over oneself." - Obi-Wan Kenobi

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"This makes Anakin, in effect, a Jedi Master, a rank that Anakin, with his unprecedented power in the Force, feels has been long overdue."- Star Wars Miniatures Ultimate Missions: Revenge of the Sith

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"Anakin Skywalker is the most powerful Jedi in over a thousand years." - Star Wars Miniatures Ultimate Missions: Revenge of the Sith

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"Obi-Wan Kenobi has endured the unenviable task of training the Jedi Order's most powerful and headstrong young Jedi, Anakin Skywalker." - Star Wars Miniatures Ultimate Missions: Revenge of the Sith

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"As Palpatine, he befriended Skywalker, becoming a close friend and a fatherly authority to a youthful warrior often confused by his seemingly boundless power and abilities he had at his disposal." - Databanks

Originally posted by Rebel95
I don't have time to spend on a full on debate with you and I don't really care enough.

You forgot the quote which says: "Anakin Skywalker-the strongest Jedi of his generation. Perhaps of all generations" or something similar.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The novel states Palpatine's power was spread in every direction. And it wasn't his "full power" regardless.

So nah.

Spreading every direction hardly matters when the points of entry each bolt of lightning possesses is hilariously small in surface area. Sure, it eventually diffuses through the entire body, but the fact remains the Lightning initiates interaction over a small surface area

Pretty sure DE endnotes at the back of the first comic say otherwise regarding the power Sudious harnessed kiddo

Originally posted by ChaosTheory123
Spreading every direction hardly matters when the points of entry each bolt of lightning possesses is hilariously small in surface area. Sure, it eventually diffuses through the entire body, but the fact remains the Lightning initiates interaction over a small surface area

Pretty sure DE endnotes at the back of the first comic say otherwise regarding the power Sudious harnessed kiddo

I doubt it.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
"Skywalker is arguably the most powerful Jedi alive, and he is still getting stronger." - Mace Windu

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"Gillard also reports that the duel will explain how Obi-Wan is able to defeat his protege, even though Anakin has been established as the most powerful Jedi who ever lived. 'Obi-Wan taught Anakin and Anakin has gone past him,' he notes. 'But when you get to that duel, it's emotional. That's where the mistake will be made. And if you know the characters, you know Obi-Wan isn't going to get emotional and he doesn't make mistakes.'" - The Making of Revenge of the Sith

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"'I'm more powerful than any of you (the Jedi Council).' It was a boy's expression of anger, but it was true." - Jacen Solo

---

"Clearly Anakin was as strong in the Force as any Jedi who had ever sat on the Council. But as Obi-Wan had told him time and again, the essence of being a Jedi didn't hinge on attaining mastery of the Force, but on attaining mastery over oneself." - Obi-Wan Kenobi

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"This makes Anakin, in effect, a Jedi Master, a rank that Anakin, with his unprecedented power in the Force, feels has been long overdue."- Star Wars Miniatures Ultimate Missions: Revenge of the Sith

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"Anakin Skywalker is the most powerful Jedi in over a thousand years." - Star Wars Miniatures Ultimate Missions: Revenge of the Sith

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"Obi-Wan Kenobi has endured the unenviable task of training the Jedi Order's most powerful and headstrong young Jedi, Anakin Skywalker." - Star Wars Miniatures Ultimate Missions: Revenge of the Sith

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"As Palpatine, he befriended Skywalker, becoming a close friend and a fatherly authority to a youthful warrior often confused by his seemingly boundless power and abilities he had at his disposal." - Databanks

Originally posted by Rebel95
These quotes just confirm that Anakin has more raw power than anyone, I'm not arguing against that. But he isn't able to control it or use it consistently.

Originally posted by Rebel95
These quotes just confirm that Anakin has more raw power than anyone, I'm not arguing against that. But he isn't able to control it or use it consistently.

I mean owning the Son and Daughter is proof enough that as Anakin he had access to power that he never did as Vader, and that no other Jedi/Sith ever could match.

But I agree that on a consistent basis Vader with his greater Force mastery seems to be better.

Either way, it's the same f***ing guy, so quit arguing and just embrace his Awesomeness

Originally posted by Rebel95
These quotes just confirm that Anakin has more raw power than anyone, I'm not arguing against that. But he isn't able to control it or use it consistently.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I meant it went in every direction in the area around Palpatine, not every direction within Vader.

Not what I meant kiddo

That being said, I am over complicating it with what I noted *shrugs*

However?

You do know how easy it'd be to just count the number of streamers entering Vader compared to those directed away from Vader would be, right?

Ultimately, you're harping about a percentage of power that doesn't make that much of a difference once you get to a great enough order of magnitude

I doubt it.

You're not old enough to be having memory problems kiddo :maybe

I've discussed and linked this to you before

I've also discussed and linked it in the context of demonstrating one can't suggest Vader endured all Sidious' power from the Lightning and yet try and claim it was the pithy, omnidirectional, multiple kilometer away explosion that ultimately killed Vader

All the same, I'm not sure how you forgot it *shrugs*