Thanos vs WBH vs Death Seed Sentry

Started by carver916 pages

Wolverine wasnt amped, he just received additional gadgets, armor, and his adamantium skeleton back.

Hulk wasnt amped. The Celestial armor helped him focus his amping ability. It was his power that he used, he was just able to tap into it a lot better with the armor.

Iceman wasn't amped. It was outright said in the comic that the seed allowed him to access his power. Everything he did was within his capabilities.

Sentry isn't amped either. The Apocalypse seed doesn't amp you, it helps you control your power.

Thanos wins.

Originally posted by carver9
Wolverine wasnt amped, he just received additional gadgets, armor, and his adamantium skeleton back.

Hulk wasnt amped. The Celestial armor helped him focus his amping ability. It was his power that he used, he was just able to tap into it a lot better with the armor.

Iceman wasn't amped. It was outright said in the comic that the seed allowed him to access his power. Everything he did was within his capabilities.

Sentry isn't amped either. The Apocalypse seed doesn't amp you, it helps you control your power.

Yet every character mentioned has perfomed feats that they couldnt replicate without the "amp". Interesting

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Yet every character mentioned has perfomed feats that they couldnt replicate without the "amp". Interesting

The death seed definitely amps you.

Iceman and Sentry are the only characters whose amps are ambiguous.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos wins.

With ease.

Originally posted by krisblaze
The death seed definitely amps you.

Iceman and Sentry are the only characters whose amps are ambiguous.

I know. Im just curious where Carver gets his information.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I know. Im just curious where Carver gets his information.

I suppose I see some of his reasoning.

He probably considers any "amp" to the Hulk pointless because he has "infinite power".

The Wolverine as death bit was also slightly ambiguous I suppose. But he did get new abilities.

Originally posted by krisblaze
I suppose I see some of his reasoning.

He probably considers any "amp" to the Hulk pointless because he has "infinite power".

The Wolverine as death bit was also slightly ambiguous I suppose. But he did get new abilities.

Logan also beat hulk...with a little effort. Unless he thinks that sword and armor tipped the scales

The War Hulk thing is dumb because its obvious he was channeling that celestial energy. Add to the fact that a "greater" Hulk had to result to bfr because he couldnt match Cains power only highlights this

But like u say i get his reasoning so meh. Hopefully we'll see more of DS Sentry. Clarify some of those power showings

Originally posted by carver9
Huh? Maybe I'm lost but when did he get the band's?

I know that he wasn't merged with the Nega-bands in that story and was merged with Rick Jones.

Him and Sentry fought each other while Cap was right up under him. I don't think a place or location have anything to do with this.

Cap was teleported away by Photon when things became too heated between them.

He just couldn't handle Hulk and got overpowered and brushed off during wvery encounter during that fight.

Not really.

Sentry was extremely weakened because he suffered of agoraphobia.

Remember that he stayed at his home during 29 hours because of it, that he was severely weakened against Hulk and lost control of his powers.

Also, if we do a comparison of who both have fought, Hulk tends to look better.

I disagree.

Red Hulk is a prime example of this.

Red Hulk did nothing special. He repelled Sentry a few times but he didn't KO him or endangered him.

Also, WWH brushed Thor off as fodder as well during their encounter and basically told him that he isn't even a threat whereas Death said the opposite.

That's not true.

Sentry wasn't serious when he fight Hercules. He mostly tried to speak with him.

Hercules' & Thor durabilities aren't that high.

Ares beat Hercules and Sentry torn Ares apart.

Hercules as well. Hulk almost killed him in 3 punches whereas Herc fight against Sentry...

Sentry destroyed Ares whom kicked Hercules' ass

Originally posted by carver9
Void Sentry vs Ares it took Sentry a prolong choke and two punches to take the fight out of him. Hulk dropped him in a single hit.

I've addressed this already but it took 3 hits for Hulk to take Hercules out.

Void Sentry vs Namor was a prolong fight. Namor was in fear of facing WWH.

It was regular Sentry and he didn't try to seriously destroy Namor.

He beat him without problem.

WWH treated Red Hulk like fodder. Red Hulk outright stomped Sentry and the Avengers.

I agree with your first assessment and I've debunked the second.

Hercules gave him hell but admitted Hulk could've killed him if he wanted (but he was holding back).

?

Ironman defeated him Sentry as well.

Iron Man couldn't beat Sentry physically so he overloaded CLOC, Sentry's computer) with informations so Sentry was overwhelmed with information and couldn't make a choice.

That's not exactly the context that you are implying.

He amped himself against Hulk to the point that the backlash of power from their blows split New York in half and was shedding nearby mountains and he still lost.

Sentry was weakened during the WWH event and both reverted to their human forms.

Splitting New York is nothing when you take in consideration that a stable Sentry destroys entire worlds while holding back.

The list goes on.

For example:

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[*]Sentry one-shotting Wolverine when Hulk need 7 punches for the same result.

[*]The Void one-shotting Hulk when Zeus needs several punches for the same result.

[*]Sentry two-shotting Thor even he is holding back and make an entire planet shake while Thanos needed several punches and energy attacks to takedown Thor.

[*]Sentry stopping Exitar's descent when Rogue amped by the power of all Heroes on Earth, including Hulk, and amped by Hulk's GAmma Emission failed to even slow down the Celestial.

[*]Sentry completely ignoring the Thing attack while the same punch made the Hulk bleed.
[/list=1]

And the list goes on. 😄

Originally posted by carver9
Wolverine wasnt amped, he just received additional gadgets, armor, and his adamantium skeleton back.

Hulk wasnt amped. The Celestial armor helped him focus his amping ability. It was his power that he used, he was just able to tap into it a lot better with the armor.

Iceman wasn't amped. It was outright said in the comic that the seed allowed him to access his power. Everything he did was within his capabilities.

Sentry isn't amped either. The Apocalypse seed doesn't amp you, it helps you control your power.

True.

Hulk never received the Celestial Seed moreover he was weakened during that arc.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos wins.
Originally posted by cdtm
With ease.

Lesser minds like ours are easily swayed by reasonings and scans.

Originally posted by carver9
Wolverine wasnt amped, he just received additional gadgets, armor, and his adamantium skeleton back.

Correct.

It was even explained by Marvel... they did a pretty comprehensive BC/Horseman comparison.

If one really wants to believe he was amped, then okayyy... we have no f*cking evidence of Logan getting depowered then 😂

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I know. Im just curious where Carver gets his information.

I've already discussed this with you. Wolverine as Death did not receive an amp.

The Celestial armor was used to harness the power that was already within Hulk. The only thing it did was put images in Hulk head that pissed him off. Here it states harnessing Hulk power (and we see the images beginning here as well...

Let's also not forget that during the time Hulk was ripping the armor off, they didn't say he was getting rid of a power up or an amp, they said he is ripping away "implants".

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Correct.

It was even explained by Marvel... they did a pretty comprehensive BC/Horseman comparison.

If one really wants to believe he was amped, then okayyy... we have no f*cking evidence of Logan getting depowered then 😂

He got teleportation + armor that amped his endurance from what I recall.

Gadgets. When he rid himself of the armor, his teleportation was gone along with all of his gadgets. He was still just Wolverine. There was no amps involved just like there were no amps involved with any of the others listed in this thread. Sorry

Originally posted by krisblaze
He got teleportation + armor that amped his endurance from what I recall.

Apocalypse gave him back his Adamantium skeleton.

^that too.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Apocalypse gave him back his Adamantium skeleton.

That's all he received. It's like saying Batman is amped because he throws out batarangs and electric darts.

Originally posted by carver9
That's all he received. It's like saying Batman is amped because he throws out batarangs and electric darts.

Yep.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lesser minds like ours are easily swayed by reasonings and scans.
It might blow your mind. Are you sure you can handle that ?