Tulak Hord vs Darth Krayt

Started by Beniboybling5 pages

Originally posted by Azronger
So there is none.
Lol darling I'm over here.

I fail to see how the talisman would be the equivalent of a fresh body in terms of spirit preservance capabilities. Didn't Muur wish to take Celeste's (and later Cade's and Krayt's) body precisely for that reason? Or am I just remembering it wrong?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Lol darling I'm over here.

What's your basis for Kun = Spirit Kun, then?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
He had the Muur Talisman to preserve and sustain his essence.
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Originally posted by Azronger
I fail to see how the talisman would be the equivalent of a fresh body in terms of spirit preservance capabilities. Didn't Muur wish to take Celeste's (and later Cade's and Krayt's) body precisely for that reason? Or am I just remembering it wrong?
It would provide him with a vessel to inhabit upon death, and also a connection to the Force as Sith talismans are built with living Force crystals. I assume that given it was designed to house his spirit and in that way make him immortal it would make a good substitute.

However naturally he need a living host to channel his powers through, which is presumably why he sought out powerful conduits.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
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And Kun had an entire planet rich with dark side energy. Doesn't mean he was as powerful as his living self, as sources have noted.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
It would provide him with a vessel to inhabit upon death, and also a connection to the Force as Sith talismans are built with living Force crystals. I assume that given it was designed to house his spirit and in that way make him immortal it would make a good substitute.

However naturally he need a living host to channel his powers through, which is presumably why he sought out powerful conduits.

You just conceded that a living body is better than a talisman for channeling his powers. So Muur > Spirit Muur, no?

Originally posted by Azronger
And Kun had an entire planet rich with dark side energy. Doesn't mean he was as powerful as his living self, as sources have noted.
Which diminished greatly over the course of 4,000 years, and which he was trapped on after being almost entirely stripped of his power by a Wall of Light conjured by the entire Jedi Order.

Frankly its impressive that he still existed at all.

You just conceded that a living body is better than a talisman for channeling his powers. So Muur > Spirit Muur, no?
In terms of his ability to channel his powers yes, not in terms of the power he possessed.

Yup. Jedi Academy Training Manual says that Sith Spirits are only weakened in a sense that their powers cannot affect the physical plane, but that can be circumvented if they have a conduit(ala Kun/Kyp, Celeste/Muur, Vitiate/his voices).

In other words, if their powers have a type of physical channel, any hinderence of being a spirit is basically removed(besides the lack of a physical body). Not only that but they can logically draw on the power of their hosts, as well.

Quote plz.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Hord > Muur > Krayt > Spirit!Muur > Vong!Krayt.

What's the base for Muur > Krayt? 😬

Wishful thinking.

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Living!Muur >> Spirit!Muur

Reborn!Krayt >> Vong!Krayt

Spirit!Muur > Vong!Krayt

Living!Muur > Reborn!Krayt

Is what I assume.

@Zoltan I though you would say "Mental retardation", tbh.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Living!Muur >> Spirit!Muur
Is what I assume.

Based on what?

Everything we know about spirits and how they work?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Living!Muur >> Spirit!Muur

Reborn!Krayt >> Vong!Krayt

Spirit!Muur > Vong!Krayt

Living!Muur > Reborn!Krayt

Is what I assume.

Kek your own logic doesn't even function.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Living!Muur >> Spirit!Muur

Reborn!Krayt >> Vong!Krayt

Spirit!Muur > Vong!Krayt

Living!Muur > Reborn!Krayt

Is what I assume.

I didn't say I agreed, I was answering Urs' question.