DCnu Hawkman Vs Ultimate Captain America

Originally posted by krisblaze
1. No. Ult Cap did little to Thor and Hulk.

2. Ok.

3. No. Hawkman will not fight under a few dozen steel girders suspended over him by a wire.

Edit: And even if Hawkman were to suffer an accident under the same circumstances as the less durable and mobile GIANT MAN, then he'll suffer less of an injury.

Ult Cap fought a bloodlusted Ult Hulk, and only had these injuries:

He fought Thor, without a shield, and his arms didn't shatter from Mjolnir:
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Still up and talking.

As for not doing anything to Hulk, he actually put him down:
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A robot version of Cap, Thor, Hulk and Giant Man:
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Vs Valkyrie:
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Matching Spiderman:
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KOs Juggy:
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War Machine:
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Nerd Hulk 😛:
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And yeah, he rocked Thor with his hits.

Yes.

These are not incidents of him "taking it to Hulk and Thor".

They're incidents of him surviving encounters with them, and fighting other, weaker superhumans. Which is well within his capabilities.

"Taking it to Hulk and Thor" implies that he was a threat to either of them. He was not.

Presented with all that evidence you reply with:

Originally posted by krisblaze
These are not incidents of him "taking it to Hulk and Thor".

They're incidents of him surviving encounters with them, and fighting other, weaker superhumans. Which is well within his capabilities.

"Taking it to Hulk and Thor" implies that he was a threat to either of them. He was not.

Any further debate, if you fail to even concede something as simple as what 'taking it to' someone means, will be pretty useless, but probably entertaining.

Why don't you fukc off back to herochat with the other trolls instead?

Originally posted by krisblaze
Yes.

These are not incidents of him "taking it to Hulk and Thor".

They're incidents of him surviving encounters with them, and fighting other, weaker superhumans. Which is well within his capabilities.

"Taking it to Hulk and Thor" implies that he was a threat to either of them. He was not.

It meant he took the fight to them, survived, and actually drew blood. With Hulk, he even put him down on his back.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Why don't you fukc off back to herochat with the other trolls instead?

He also happened to drop a tank on him prior to that and iirc he was juiced up on the SS serum.

Originally posted by krisblaze
He also happened to drop a tank on him prior to that and iirc he was juiced up on the SS serum.

And Hulk was just fine from that - he was still ripping tanks apart like paper.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3038165-cap+vs+hulk+%235+%281%29.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And Hulk was just fine from that - he was still ripping tanks apart like paper.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3038165-cap+vs+hulk+%235+%281%29.jpg

Yes, I remember the fight.

Taking it to someone implies that you compete with them, threaten them in some way.

I suppose you could say that he was close to getting the adamantium needle in.

I'll quit now, it just looks like I'm being extremely petty.

Originally posted by krisblaze
He also happened to drop a tank on him prior to that and iirc he was juiced up on the SS serum.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ult Cap fought a bloodlusted Ult Hulk, and only had these injuries:

Only because Thor saved him.

Originally posted by Faceless808
What tier would you place Hawkman, Cogito?

Pre-DCnU (again, not familiar enough with DCnU) I'd place about as high in the meta tier as it gets. Higher if he gets the Claw.

His damage soak is absurd, his strength is highly underrated, and the mace lets him hit a couple tiers above his peers.

He seemed to fluctuate a f*cking lot, actually... DC never really had a good idea on what to do with those Thanagarians.

Originally posted by Cogito
Pre-DCnU (again, not familiar enough with DCnU) I'd place about as high in the meta tier as it gets. Higher if he gets the Claw.

His damage soak is absurd, his strength is highly underrated, and the mace lets him hit a couple tiers above his peers.

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He seemed to fluctuate a f*cking lot, actually... DC never really had a good idea on what to do with those Thanagarians.

I like the direction their taking HM now, though!!

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Only because Thor saved him.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Only because Thor saved him.

My point was, Hulk was absolutely wailing on him. Bloodlusted, too.

Even if Thor saves him later, the main thing to take away is that he took the best from a bloodlusted Hulk, who would be punching above what Hawkman would be outputting.

And had a cracked rib, dislocated shoulder etc to show from it.

^^^You're asking way to much with that takeaway. 😛

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
My point was, Hulk was absolutely wailing on him. Bloodlusted, too.

Even if Thor saves him later, the main thing to take away is that he took the best from a bloodlusted Hulk, who would be punching above what Hawkman would be outputting.

And had a cracked rib, dislocated shoulder etc to show from it.

Why should a bloodlusted Ultimate Hulk be stronger than Hawkman?

That was practically his first showing and he was nowhere near 616 Hulk.

Lol. Hulk was pretty angry.