DCnu Hawkman Vs Ultimate Captain America

Tbh, I'm only using that one tank showing because I wanted to be fair, because it was directly before the beat down Cap gave to Hulk (IOW, IF Hulk was weakened, it wasn't by much, because he was tearing tanks apart like tissue lol). And of course, directly before the beat down HE gave to Cappy.

I could've been idiotic, and taken Hulks' highest showings ever, and said that was the level he as operating at in that fight, but I didn't.

I was just incredibly mystified when you said Hulk wasn't Hawkman level, that's all.

That was...awesome.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Cool.

So one showing of Hulk, vs the entirety of DCnU Hawkman's output. Who has been going since 2011, so nearly 5 years' worth of output. What feats does DCnU Hawkman have that surpasses that single showing?

Here's a respect thread for Hawkman, so you can save time:
https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/2ofkot/respect_hawkman_new_52/

Who are you going with on average?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Cool.

So one showing of Hulk, vs the entirety of DCnU Hawkman's output. Who has been going since 2011, so nearly 5 years' worth of output. What feats does DCnU Hawkman have that surpasses that single showing?

Here's a respect thread for Hawkman, so you can save time:
https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/2ofkot/respect_hawkman_new_52/

That link doesn't show Hawman taking it to Shaggy Man (Justice League of America). Hawkman was losing a fatally amount of blood and still continued to fight.

Shaggy Man>>>Ult. Hulk. 😉

Shall we go scan for scan, Ult. Hulk vs DCnU Shaggy Man? And it has to be the same version shown against the JLA, not the version Aquaman later fought.

AFTER that, we will need to show how Hawkman losing to Shaggy, equates to Cap putting Hulk flat on his back, then going through a beating with only a busted face etc.

It speaks volumes for Hawkman's tenacity, sure. But that just puts him at Wolverine level, tbh.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Shall we go scan for scan, Ult. Hulk vs DCnU Shaggy Man? And it has to be the same version shown against the JLA, not the version Aquaman later fought.

AFTER that, we will need to show how Hawkman losing to Shaggy, equates to Cap putting Hulk flat on his back, then going through a beating with only a busted face etc.

It speaks volumes for Hawkman's tenacity, sure. But that just puts him at Wolverine level, tbh.

It's the same version, though. I think in the issue of Aquaman, Aquaman stated that SM fought the JLA, which is the same version Hawkman fought.

Hawkman has also taken blows from Aquaman and Wonder Woman.

I'd take a blow from Wonder Woman.

Edit:
Hard to believe this all stems from Krisblaze's misunderstanding of the term 'take it to'.

Originally posted by Zack M
It's the same version, though. I think in the issue of Aquaman, Aquaman stated that SM fought the JLA, which is the same version Hawkman fought.

Hawkman has also taken blows from Aquaman and Wonder Woman.

That Shaggy that Hawkman fought was a robot, no?

There have been several Shaggy Men, IIRC. So the one Arthur fought may well have fought the JLA.

But, sidetracking here. What did Shaggy Man show that was > Ult Hulk?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That Shaggy that Hawkman fought was a robot, no?

There have been several Shaggy Men, IIRC. So the one Arthur fought may well have fought the JLA.

But, sidetracking here. What did Shaggy Man show that was > Ult Hulk?

I don't recall them ever saying there were several shaggy man. SM isn't even a natural being, so it should be the same one.

SM adapts, so it will adapt beyond Hulk.

Oh no no, this isn't a Hulk vs Shaggy fight.

It's who has displayed better strength feats

SM taking on the JLA and needing BFR to be beaten is pretty uber.

As for the actual fight, I think Hawkman's armor will protect him from Cap's blows. It's symboite lite and if it can block ammunition, withstand blunt force, and energy attacks, Cap will have a hard time.

Not to mention, Hawkman can work in the air and have a maneuverability edge against Steve.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh no no, this isn't a Hulk vs Shaggy fight.

It's who has displayed better strength feats

Good job 😉

^^^Great job.

Here are some additional scans from supeemutant that wasn't in Darksaints link. It's really Hawkman armor that gives him the victory, imo. It's simply too much.

Of course I'm comparing Wolverine when he had a healing factor b/c current Logan would get curb stomp.

Hawkman takes massive punishment from Shaggyman android then resists being torn apart by Flash, Cyborg, Aquaman, and Green Lantern androids all design by Pr. Ivo. Ivo states that they are having a hard time trying to put Hawkman down. Continues fighting Shaggyman when JLA arrives.

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Punches Blockbuster so hard that he almost goes into orbit.

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Is impaled through chest and heart, heals immediately.

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Explains some of the nth metal capabilities.

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Restores Hawkman's wings.

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Heals instantly from being shot in back by sniper (Pike).

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Fly speed is up to 500 mph

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Berserker Mode (full combat mode) Nth metal covers entire body and enhances stats. With one shot sends Blockbuster through cars, gets crushed by two cars w/o damage, and pounds Blockbuster through concrete.

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So this ends one of two ones, Logan gets koed after being punched into orbit or gets his head cut off from Hawkman's nth metal axe.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=606912&pagenumber=5

So this ends one of two ones, Logan gets koed after being punched into orbit or gets his head cut off from Hawkman's nth metal axe.

Anybody keeping up with Death of Hawkman mini? I wonder if he still has the Nth metal berserker mode.

Originally posted by Zack M
Here are some additional scans

Probably took a lot of work to put those scans together but uh...they broke. 😬

Originally posted by Cogito
Probably took a lot of work to put those scans together but uh...they broke. 😬

He just copied and pasted someone's post. So many years on kmc and golgo still has no clue how links work.

That's why I pasted the link, too. 😉