Loki vs. Symbiote Spiderman

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Originally posted by Silent Master
Thank you for proving my point.

Actually I proved you wrong. You were talking about changing people's mind, but the discussion was about picking apart arguments. Changing someone's mind has nothing to do with that.

Originally posted by FrothByte
IIRC, he got tackled by Hulk through Stark tower, at which point he easily gets up without injuries and starts his monologue.

Spider-Man ripped solid steel with his hands. A weaker version broke a huge ass cable cord in Spider-Man 2.

Originally posted by h1a8
Actually I proved you wrong. You were talking about changing people's mind, but the discussion was about picking apart arguments. Changing someone's mind has nothing to do with that.

Sure it does, as people have been trying to get you to change your mind( accept reality) about whether or not your arguments have been picked apart.

hmmmm.......hate to jump in on the ass end of a debate but what exactly could parker do to prevent loki from flash freezing him? I mean he ttok out heimdell mid swing

Originally posted by Silent Master
Sure it does, as people have been trying to get you to change your mind( accept reality) about whether or not your arguments have been picked apart.
It's not necessary to convince someone in order to pick their argument apart. Those are two separate things.

You can easily pick an argument apart while not convincing a bias person.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
hmmmm.......hate to jump in on the ass end of a debate but what exactly could parker do to prevent loki from flash freezing him? I mean he ttok out heimdell mid swing
Parker has speed and the ability to see action far slower than a human. Weirdly, he didn't do that to anyone else. Iron man seemed to have his number.

Also the webbing will slow him down.

Originally posted by h1a8
No they don't. And if so then it wasn't anything easy about. You should know as you have thought of new angles or reasons to try to defeat my argument. I would shut one reason down and you would find another.

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What a delusional noob.

You and I both know your arguments are sh!t and that your arguments fall under any level of scrutiny.

Else you'd be confidently accepting my bz challenges.

You running every single time is all the proof I (and everyone else) need.

Originally posted by h1a8
Parker has speed and the ability to see action far slower than a human. Weirdly, he didn't do that to anyone else. Iron man seemed to have his number.

Also the webbing will slow him down.

"far slower than a human"...WHERE are u getting this from?

Originally posted by h1a8
It's not necessary to convince someone in order to pick their argument apart. Those are two separate things.

You can easily pick an argument apart while not convincing a bias person.

Yes you do; that is, if you want them to admit that their arguments have been picked apart.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
"far slower than a human"...WHERE are u getting this from?

That he perceives action far slower (time appears slower to him)? In several scenes. The first one was when he first got his powers and accidentally pissed off flash Thompson. In the hallway where the lockers were his SS was activated. You see the spitball travel in slow motion, the beating of the flies wings, etc. Even after Parker dodged the punch, he looked back and forth, while the punch was frozen, thinking how is this happening?

Another scene is when Parker dodged the car thrown through the window. There are other scenes too. I thought this was common knowledge though. 😕

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yes you do; that is, if you want them to admit that their arguments have been picked apart.
What? Now you are just trolling. You can pick apart an argument without convincing the arguer.

You are clearly Arguing just to not be wrong. Its sad. At times I do feel you are convinced but resort to trolling so that it don't appear you lost the argument. The only reason to even have a discussion with you is just for practice for the real people that I am going to debate.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
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What a delusional noob.

You and I both know your arguments are sh!t and that your arguments fall under any level of scrutiny.

Else you'd be confidently accepting my bz challenges.

You running every single time is all the proof I (and everyone else) need.

On my life, I feel my arguments are very strong. If I didn't then no way in hell I would even produce them. Now you can say it's my lack of intelligence of not seeing that my arguments are shit. I'll accept that. But can't accept purposely posting shitty arguments.

I do not do BZ unless it's on fair terms. It has to be 100% clear to what the BZ is about. For example, I will not do a BZ trying to prove Miyagi is faster than Chen or Ip man. Why? Because they are faster visually. But implied speed to be effective in achieving feats is different.

Lastly, a defensive fighter doesn't have to be faster than the attacker to win. A block, dodge, or parry, takes significantly less speed than the attack thrown.

Originally posted by h1a8
What? Now you are just trolling. You can pick apart an argument without convincing the arguer.

You are clearly Arguing just to not be wrong. Its sad. At times I do feel you are convinced but resort to trolling so that it don't appear you lost the argument. The only reason to even have a discussion with you is just for practice for the real people that I am going to debate.

You know that you're just further proving my point, right?

Originally posted by Silent Master
You know that you're just further proving my point, right?

You can pick apart an argument without convincing the arguer. So you were wrong.
Stop trolling already.

Originally posted by h1a8
You can pick apart an argument without convincing the arguer. So you were wrong.
Stop trolling already.

Are you purposely missing the point or are you just not smart enough to understand?

Originally posted by h1a8
On my life, I feel my arguments are very strong. If I didn't then no way in hell I would even produce them. Now you can say it's my lack of intelligence of not seeing that my arguments are shit. I'll accept that. But can't accept purposely posting shitty arguments.

I do not do BZ unless it's on fair terms. It has to be 100% clear to what the BZ is about. For example, I will not do a BZ trying to prove Miyagi is faster than Chen or Ip man. Why? Because they are faster visually. But implied speed to be effective in achieving feats is different.

Lastly, a defensive fighter doesn't have to be faster than the attacker to win. A block, dodge, or parry, takes significantly less speed than the attack thrown.

Pretty much every one here feels your arguments are weak, without proof, and full of bias. I say this without meaning any insult. But you usually spout your opinion and claim it as fact without any actual factual basis to back it up. This is why people here don't take your arguments seriously.

Just as an example: You claimed Miyagi can strike at 200 mph. Where did you get that number? You just made it up, yet you keep acting like it's a fact. If you had at least provided some proof of where you got this number maybe people would take you more seriously.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Pretty much every one here feels your arguments are weak, without proof, and full of bias. I say this without meaning any insult. But you usually spout your opinion and claim it as fact without any actual factual basis to back it up. This is why people here don't take your arguments seriously.

Just as an example: You claimed Miyagi can strike at 200 mph. Where did you get that number? You just made it up, yet you keep acting like it's a fact. If you had at least provided some proof of where you got this number maybe people would take you more seriously.

Look up a few posts and read the reason he gives for running away from the Battle Zone.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Pretty much every one here feels your arguments are weak, without proof, and full of bias. I say this without meaning any insult. But you usually spout your opinion and claim it as fact without any actual factual basis to back it up. This is why people here don't take your arguments seriously.

Just as an example: You claimed Miyagi can strike at 200 mph. Where did you get that number? You just made it up, yet you keep acting like it's a fact. If you had at least provided some proof of where you got this number maybe people would take you more seriously.

I explained that the number came from the speed of a pellet. The hand is more plushy and elastic and has a larger area. This makes it harder than a pellet. But the hand is more massive than a pellet, which makes it easier. These things should cancel somewhat.

Anyway, I didn't claim that Miyagi CAN strike with 200mph. I claimed that it takes about 200mph to achieve the feat he did. Do you get the subtle difference? I dont take the feat as proof of 200mph hand speed but as proof that he easily has the hand speed to block or parry human level attacks.

Anyway, outside of that, most of my arguments are pretty solid.

Originally posted by h1a8

Anyway, outside of that, most of my arguments are pretty solid.

What a load of bullshit...

Originally posted by h1a8
I explained that the number came from the speed of a pellet. The hand is more plushy and elastic and has a larger area. This makes it harder than a pellet. But the hand is more massive than a pellet, which makes it easier. These things should cancel somewhat.

Anyway, I didn't claim that Miyagi CAN strike with 200mph. I claimed that it takes about 200mph to achieve the feat he did. Do you get the subtle difference? I dont take the feat as proof of 200mph hand speed but as proof that he easily has the hand speed to block or parry human level attacks.

Anyway, outside of that, most of my arguments are pretty solid.

Ok well then where did you come up with the numbers to say it takes 200 mph hand speed to break a bottle's neck?