Batman vs. Shang Chi in a H2H match

Originally posted by Dareangel
....when it comes to fighting skills and abilities alone, shang chi is 1 level above him IMO. lets also take into account the fact batman is using protective body suit that is suppose to lighten up the impact of the strikes he recieve. also enhance his own striking power to a little degree. shang chi is fighting shirtless WITH SLIPPERS OR SNEAKERS and he still kicks major ass Lol. when batman steps up into a fight he all suited up with tons of gadgets and shit ready up for war. then we got shang chi looking like he is walking to the beach wooping some ass punching out dragons and doombots. this says it all man. Mr shang is on a different level. not by much, but a different level.

Originally posted by Dareangel
as pointed out he may win some or lose some, but those guys are his limits.

lol you mean elite top tier fighters like Bane and Bronze Tiger are not limits for Shang Chi when for most of his history the Cat has stalemated him and Razor Fist has given him problems. Not too long ago Batman beat Bane who was own his most potent Venom ever with mostly just skill. So no Batman "limits" are definitely not less than Shang's. Like I said before you can't even low-ball correctly.

Just curious (i've already made my pick here) how much skill was that mostly skill and how much was gear/gadgets, insofar as taking damage and dealing it out?

Originally posted by Supermutant
lol you mean elite top tier fighters like Bane and Bronze Tiger are not limits for Shang Chi when for most of his history the Cat has stalemated him and Razor Fist has given him problems. Not too long ago Batman beat Bane who was own his most potent Venom ever with mostly just skill. So no Batman "limits" are definitely not less than Shang's. Like I said before you can't even low-ball correctly.

razor fist is getting wooped by him all the time. Cat stalemated him so? most of his fights you see shang chi simply dominates. he is able to destroy doombots, punch out dragons, hell he even beat the hell out of gorgon. if it wasnt for his healing factor gorgon would be screwed. watch his fight vs wolverine and elektra gorgon took their punishment like its nothing. but when shang amped himself, he was wrecking gorgon until he finally healed. thats the shang chi average. batman on average is getting hard pressed vs deathstroke, bronze tiger, bane and people at that level. the reason i brought that up was to show that batman matching karate kid is not his average. now since you are bringitng that up, are you claiming it is actually his avergae?
also as i pointed out already, batman has a suit and overall gear that helps him. this is only about skills. take that into account as well.

Cat was made to be the anti-shang. And it's not like he's a pushover, either. Pushover's don't beat Deaepool or stalemate/beat Iron Fist..

And get destroyed by Taskmaster.

Pure hand to hand . Shang

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Thats wusup

Originally posted by abhilegend
And get destroyed by Taskmaster.

thats wusup

Originally posted by Dareangel
as pointed out he may win some or lose some, but those guys are his limits. i also dont recall batman beating bronze tiger. as far as batman stating that, its just a statement. aside of that the whole event is beyond his average abilities when it comes down to fighting. and even then he lost as i recall. batman is a good top tier fighter, but when it comes to fighting skills and abilities alone, shang chi is 1 level above him IMO. lets also take into account the fact batman is using protective body suit that is suppose to lighten up the impact of the strikes he recieve. also enhance his own striking power to a little degree. shang chi is fighting shirtless WITH SLIPPERS OR SNEAKERS and he still kicks major ass Lol. when batman steps up into a fight he all suited up with tons of gadgets and shit ready up for war. then we got shang chi looking like he is walking to the beach wooping some ass punching out dragons and doombots. this says it all man. Mr shang is on a different level. not by much, but a different level.

Nobody said it didn't take skill to develop Chi attacks or whatnot. We're saying that if he couldn't rely upon that and it's just a dojo style fight, Batman would come out on top. We saw what happened when he fought Cap in a ring without Chi. It was 50/50. Batman has mastered every fighting style on earth, Shang isn't anything special.

Originally posted by Zack M
I'm talking technical skill. Batman has the edge, IMO. He stalemated Karate Kid who is superior to Chi.

The Karate Kid thing seems like a classic case of PIS.

Originally posted by riv6672
No he isnt.
The fact that Shang is so good a MA that he can PERFORM chi manipulation proves that.

I thought Batman willingly chose not to learn stuff like chi manipulation and magic, etc.?

Originally posted by Surtur
The Karate Kid thing seems like a classic case of PIS.

I thought Batman willingly chose not to learn stuff like chi manipulation and magic, etc.?

You can call it that, but it still counts as his feats. He also one-shotted Bane, too.

Originally posted by Zack M
You can call it that, but it still counts as his feats. He also one-shotted Bane, too.

Does Spider-Man beating down Firelord still count as well, then?

Who one shotted Bane, Karate Kid? That just makes Batman stalemating him make even less sense.

Originally posted by Surtur
Does Spider-Man beating down Firelord still count as well, then?

Who one shotted Bane, Karate Kid? That just makes Batman stalemating him make even less sense.

Batman did. Batman has a lot of PIS feats, but they still count.

Oh, and Solomon Grundy, too. 😱

Originally posted by Zack M
Batman did. Batman has a lot of PIS feats, but they still count.

One shotting Bane is a far cry from stalemating a guy who, while sick and dying, beats the shit out of a villain even Supergirl had trouble against.

You can say the feat counts, but it isn't necessarily an accurate representation of Batman's overall abilities.

Since if we're saying he can stalemate Karate Kid he should literally be able to one shot Shang Chi then.

EDIT: Just saw the Grundy thing too. If those feats count how does Batman not beat the shit out of Shang Chi? How does he not do so even if Shang Chi can use chi?

Originally posted by Surtur
One shotting Bane is a far cry from stalemating a guy who, while sick and dying, beats the shit out of a villain even Supergirl had trouble against.

You can say the feat counts, but it isn't necessarily an accurate representation of Batman's overall abilities.

Since if we're saying he can stalemate Karate Kid he should literally be able to one shot Shang Chi then.

EDIT: Just saw the Grundy thing too. If those feats count how does Batman not beat the shit out of Shang Chi? How does he not do so even if Shang Chi can use chi?

I don't recall supergirl having trouble with that villain. However, when Val went in for a kick, supergirl casually blocked it.

And the Val I'm talking about is on Shang's level, not above it.

Originally posted by deathslash
don't bring that up like it's a low showing. Taskmaster has the h2h skills of some of Marvel's absolute best.