Darth Sidious & Luke Skywalker vs Exar Kun & Ulic Qel-Droma

Luke would curb Ulic without much difficulty

Since when is Palpatine blitzing Sith as powerful and fast as Ulic?

Kun wouldn't just meddle with Luke's head, lol.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Since when is Palpatine blitzing Sith as powerful and fast as Ulic?

Kun wouldn't just meddle with Luke's head, lol.

Since his TFU incarnation blitzed Galen Marek, never mind his DE version 👆

Whatever he does, it'll take longer than Palpatine will to decimate Qel-Droma.

Palpatine isn't blitzing Droma, wtf is this rofl.

Nice DS ending content you have there.

Ulic, whilst being constantly sapped by Onderon's Dark Side nexus and Warb Null's Force Suppression attempt, blitzed Null. A master of the dark side and excellent warrior, who could sense and react to an imminent decapitation attempt by a Jedi Master almost as fast as thought, with the combative memories and knowledge of Freedon Nadd. As well as five of Ommin's Krath Warriors. Not to mention nigh-blitzing Ommin, who caused the immense dark side nexus across Onderon with his sorcery, whilst easily maintaining his spell over Arca Jeth, whilst one-shotting Nomi Sunrider with telepathy, whilst dominating the minds of millions of Onderonians. That was before Ulic gained the powers of the dark side, before he stalemated Exar Kun, which was before he gained tremendous powers of the dark side and transformed into a 'Warrior Magus' much more powerful than he'd ever been before.

Pretty sure he isn't getting blitzed, he'll hold his own long enough for Kun to stomp Luke with sorcery before Kun can interfere and save him.

A few story differences don't change power levels. I've held that stance for all games.

Galen Marek was faster than Vader, and this was a Palpatine before his Force skills increased considerably.

If it doesn't amount to a blitz, it certainly amounts to something very close to one. Palpatine is still destroying Qel-Droma before Kun can defeat Luke.

It changes how powerful Galen himself is, because IIRC the novel makes it pretty damn clear that retraining as a Jedi made him more focused and powerful. So no, it isn't just 'a few story differences'.

Galen still retrains as a Jedi in the DS version, lol. The only difference is that he does strike Vader down, and then attempts to blitz Palpatine and fails. The only difference is what happens after Vader's beaten. And that's not enough to make a significant difference seeing as right before that, Galen was still faster than Vader.

And you're forgetting that DE Palpatine is both more powerful than his RotJ incarnation (who in turn is more powerful than his TFU incarnation), and his Force skills have improved considerably since RotJ. It easily takes care of whatever possible disparity there would be between whether Galen goes LS or DS - not that there is a noticeable one to begin with.

he didnt even blitz him wtf

In the PS2/Wii version, he ends their bladelock by throwing away his lightsaber and then he hurls Marek before the latter even moves. If you're making people look like they stand still, that's a blitz.

Yeh I just watched it, he doesn't blitz him. Better yet, the attack doesn't even appear to harm him much, if at all.

Kun needs barely any time at all to incapacitate/kill Luke with sorcery before he's joining his apprentice.

1. It was supposed to get rid of him, not harm him. And yes, it's a blitz. Marek literally doesn't even manage to move when Palpatine throws away his lightsaber, and Marek's blade was close enough that a slight nudge would've cut through Palpatine's body.

2. He needs a prolonged spell.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
he didnt even blitz him wtf

To me it looks more like he was surprised that he'd thrown away his saber at all.

How, exactly? He and Kyp overwhelmed a more powerful Luke in JA in like a minute, given the context. A prime Kun has Force blast, Tendrils. . . . you name it, he's f*cking him up with it.

Originally posted by SunRazer
In the PS2/Wii version, he ends their bladelock by throwing away his lightsaber and then he hurls Marek before the latter even moves. If you're making people look like they stand still, that's a blitz.

We all know how well those blast worked on Aleema Keto, and how his sorcery worked on force sensitives in the senate. Oh wait!

1. Surprised? How so?

2. Yeah - a minute. Most duels don't last that long - and they certainly won't with the discrepancy between Palpatine and Qel-Droma.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
not a blitz 😬

It is. Galen practically didn't even move in the time between Palpatine throwing away his saber and the Force attack.

You mean the blast he casually knocked Aleema out with, before glowing with more power than any of her magic has ever afforded her? Sure.

You mean when he casually hypnotized tens of thousands of people whils stomping Vodo? Sure.

Originally posted by SunRazer
It is. Galen practically didn't even move in the time between Palpatine throwing away his saber and the Force attack.