Bane Vs The Winter Soldier

Wow you are just blatantly lying at this point.

First, Bane is slow as shit. So is Batman. They're 2 of the slowest on screen comic characters in history. Bucky who blocked bullets with his arm, caught the shield, and fought evenly with Cap, Panther, and Iron Man's AI assisted armor is a speed demon in comparison.

Second, even without the arm, Bucky is enhanced similar to Cap. Shown by how he can book it at at least 40mph, kick people 30 feet away, and jump dozens of feet.

Third, the arm is incredibly superhumanly strong. Bane got taken down by the all too human Batman. I'm calling bullshit if you think Bane can take any amount of full force hits that send cars careening off the road.

Originally posted by KingD19
Wow you are just blatantly lying at this point.

First, Bane is slow as shit. So is Batman. They're 2 of the slowest on screen comic characters in history. Bucky who blocked bullets with his arm, caught the shield, and fought evenly with Cap, Panther, and Iron Man's AI assisted armor is a speed demon in comparison.

Second, even without the arm, Bucky is enhanced similar to Cap. Shown by how he can book it at at least 40mph, kick people 30 feet away, and jump dozens of feet.

Third, the arm is incredibly superhumanly strong. Bane got taken down by the all too human Batman. I'm calling bullshit if you think Bane can take any amount of full force hits that send cars careening off the road.

Did you catch how in the Miyagi threads, h1 wanted everyone to ignore shown speed and instead rely on implied speed for Miyagi. yet here he is basing WS's speed on what was shown?

It's almost like I was correct when I stated that h1's standards for proof change based on which side he likes more.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Did you catch how in the Miyagi threads, h1 wanted everyone to ignore shown speed and instead rely on implied speed for Miyagi. yet here he is basing WS's speed on what was shown?

It's almost like I was correct when I stated that h1's standards for proof change based on which side he likes more.

You can almost smell the hypocrisy over the internet.

To tell the truth, I'm thinking Bucky the last time we saw him (metal arm blown off by Iron Man) would still rock Bane's world.

Originally posted by h1a8
I disagree. Even if the punch is with the metal arm Bane is not going down.

It would take several punches with the metal arm to ko Bane.
Bane has good defense. Bane can hurt WS. This not very easy for WS.

You're 100% wrong in disagreeing; here's why:

Buckey's bionic arm punched into concrete, among other super-human feats. A single direct hit to Bane's mask would destroy the mask and much of Bane's mouth/face. Bane can't function without his mask, even if he survives the damage to his face.

It would take exactly one direct hit for WS to take Bane out. See the inescapable logic above.

WS would easily shrug off Bane's punches, considering he's gone toe-to-toe with superhumans that make Bane look like an imbecilic child by comparison. Captain America, Black Panther and Iron Man.

Originally posted by Robtard
You're 100% wrong in disagreeing; here's why:

Buckey's bionic arm punched into concrete, among other super-human feats. A single direct hit to Bane's mask would destroy the mask and much of Bane's mouth/face. Bane can't function without his mask, even if he survives the damage to his face.

It would take exactly one direct hit for WS to take Bane out. See the inescapable logic above.

WS would easily shrug off Bane's punches, considering he's gone toe-to-toe with superhumans that make Bane look like an imbecilic child by comparison. Captain America, Black Panther and Iron Man.

👆 Game, blouses.

Originally posted by John Murdoch
👆 Game, blouses.

Originally posted by KingD19

Can't see the pic, King, but I'm guessing it's our buddy Prince floating down from the rim hahahaha.

Originally posted by KingD19
Wow you are just blatantly lying at this point.

First, Bane is slow as shit. So is Batman. They're 2 of the slowest on screen comic characters in history. Bucky who blocked bullets with his arm, caught the shield, and fought evenly with Cap, Panther, and Iron Man's AI assisted armor is a speed demon in comparison.

Second, even without the arm, Bucky is enhanced similar to Cap. Shown by how he can book it at at least 40mph, kick people 30 feet away, and jump dozens of feet.

Third, the arm is incredibly superhumanly strong. Bane got taken down by the all too human Batman. I'm calling bullshit if you think Bane can take any amount of full force hits that send cars careening off the road.

Christian Bale has moved very fast as Batman at times. Bucky didn't move very fast (slower than a real professional fighter), neither did Cap. They moved with acting speed. Bane was pretty quick when countering Batman. He's a master MA from the league of shadows. It's impossible to be slow and a master from the league of shadows.

Catching the shield is easily. I once backcatched a 98mph fastball.

Aim blocking is not speed (bullets). Bucky is not similar to Cap.

1. Characters don't use the same force in every scene. Movies and Tv shows have great inconsistencies. To assume they don't exist is asinine. To take one showing and equate it to all showings is faulty.

2. Bane NO SOLD haymakers from Batman. Batman has several SUPERHUMAN strength feats. This proves Bane can tank several metal arm blows.

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Originally posted by Silent Master
Did you catch how in the Miyagi threads, h1 wanted everyone to ignore shown speed and instead rely on implied speed for Miyagi. yet here he is basing WS's speed on what was shown?

It's almost like I was correct when I stated that h1's standards for proof change based on which side he likes more.

WS has no feats to say his reactions or human hand speed should be faster than what was shown. If you disagree then give feats that show his human hand or reactions are faster than what was shown.

Originally posted by Robtard
You're 100% wrong in disagreeing; here's why:

Buckey's bionic arm punched into concrete, among other super-human feats. A single direct hit to Bane's mask would destroy the mask and much of Bane's mouth/face. Bane can't function without his mask, even if he survives the damage to his face.

It would take exactly one direct hit for WS to take Bane out. See the inescapable logic above.

WS would easily shrug off Bane's punches, considering he's gone toe-to-toe with superhumans that make Bane look like an imbecilic child by comparison. Captain America, Black Panther and Iron Man.

What specific feats do Bucky have to say that Bane can't hurt him from a punch to the face?

Banes mask has hella durability. It resisted full force from Batman without any damage. Bucky punch isn't much greater than Batman's full power. This is taking averages of course.

I challenge you to a battle Zone, loser gets banned for three months.

Originally posted by h1a8
. Batman has several SUPERHUMAN strength feats..

Baleman was defeated by dogs lol.

Originally posted by h1a8
1. Characters don't use the same force in every scene. Movies and Tv shows have great inconsistencies. To assume they don't exist is asinine. To take one showing and equate it to all showings is faulty.

2. Bane NO SOLD haymakers from Batman. Batman has several SUPERHUMAN strength feats. This proves Bane can tank several metal arm blows.

Am I the only one that sees the double standard he's using?

How the hell has this gone to three pages? This is some Quan Khan level bullshit.

WS absolutely curbstomps.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Am I the only one that sees the double standard he's using?

Sadly, even I could (the Ignore function needs work, I can still see his nonsense when other people quote it). He wants to cherry pick which feats to use for Bucky's striking, by doing his "fluctuating levels/standards" crap, while claiming that Bane taking Baleman's hits is impressive because of separate strength/striking feats. The dumb thing is, Bucky's metal arm strike feats are consistent, and the only people who have managed to tank repeated metal arm hits were legit superhumans, like Cap and BP.

And it has been established that Bucky is also a super soldier (both by feats and by onscreen dialogue). Hell, the Winter Soldier enhancement program is a main plot point in CA:CW. Plus, the Russos themselves confirmed as much, and described him and Cap as equals, during CA:TWS's Director's Commentary. So, anyone who states otherwise is blatantly lying.

I also saw that he was trying to bring up Falcon & Agent 13 as an argument against Winter Soldier, which is pretty hilarious, considering they only managed to land one clean hit between the two of them, all the rest being blocked with his arms (and that one was courtesy of an opening BW created, by punching Bucky in the testicles). Hell, Sam barely lasted 5 seconds before getting put down. From 2:30 to 2:35 and from 3:00 odd to 3:10.

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Bane was getting hit by an out of shape Batman, who even in his prime was ridiculously slow and cumbersome. I will grant that Bane does seem strong though he's nowhere near WS's level. But let's stop with this nonsense that Bane is some kind of fast fighter. Compared to pretty much any MCU fighter he's a snail.

Originally posted by h1a8
Christian Bale has moved very fast as Batman at times. Bucky didn't move very fast (slower than a real professional fighter), neither did Cap. They moved with acting speed. Bane was pretty quick when countering Batman. He's a master MA from the league of shadows. It's impossible to be slow and a master from the league of shadows.
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Using this logic then you would need to admit that Miyagi can't strike at 200mph since he can only move at acting speed.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Using this logic then you would need to admit that Miyagi can't strike at 200mph since he can only move at acting speed.

Have you noticed that even though all four these characters moved at "acting" speed, he describes Winter Soldier and Cap as slow while using terms like fast and quick for Bane and Baleman?

Since I don't wanna be mean til after new year's, gonna wait to reply to this thread.

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