Originally posted by big juggy man
Incredible Hulk claimed he could behead him. You know Juggernaut is immortal as long as he is connected to Cyttorak right? So just because the Hulk says he is going to kill him doesn't mean he can.The Onslaught story was POS. People have explained that before. Even him being hurt by low level magical based weapons are pretty stupid.
In any case DD doesn't have magic or Celestial Tech so there is nothing he can do against Classic Juggernaut. He could just put up his Force Field and stand there.
juggernaut himself was scared and knew war hulk can kill him. i think its obvious the writer wanted to tell us he can kill juggernaut. also the writer made it more obvious by showing war hulk being able to stop the juggernaut and overpower his movement. thats another indication meant to portray the fact war hulk is powerful enough to bypass his powers and defences.
the onslaught story was what? all i know is onslaught was able to hurt juggernaut. thats what we see in the comics.
the celestial tech is not a power of some different category. its a tech that allowed the hulk to tap into more power. fact of the matter is, thru tech or magic or what ever, with enough force he can be hurt and he was hurt. you did not address my other showings and statements. on the other hand, what are the feats you can rely on, to suggest he is resistant to physical harm on such levels?
Originally posted by Dareangel
juggernaut himself was scared and knew war hulk can kill him. i think its obvious the writer wanted to tell us he can kill juggernaut. also the writer made it more obvious by showing war hulk being able to stop the juggernaut and overpower his movement. thats another indication meant to portray the fact war hulk is powerful enough to bypass his powers and defences.the onslaught story was what? all i know is onslaught was able to hurt juggernaut. thats what we see in the comics.
the celestial tech is not a power of some different category. its a tech that allowed the hulk to tap into more power. fact of the matter is, thru tech or magic or what ever, with enough force he can be hurt and he was hurt. you did not address my other showings and statements. on the other hand, what are the feats you can rely on, to suggest he is resistant to physical harm on such levels?
You ought to go back and re-read that comic. War Hulk saying something and actually doing it in this case would and should be considered hyperbole, or at least there should be a space left for doubt since no one has ever been able to do this to Cain in the past. War Hulk did beat his ass, but how many other characters can boast to that feat while seen on panel? Not many.
Originally posted by Stoic
You ought to go back and re-read that comic. War Hulk saying something and actually doing it in this case would and should be considered hyperbole, or at least there should be a space left for doubt since no one has ever been able to do this to Cain in the past. War Hulk did beat his ass, but how many other characters can boast to that feat while seen on panel? Not many.
why do you believe it should be considered hyperbole? the writer shows us war hulk stopping the juggernaut while cain is surprised as hell someone overpowered his powers. then we see juggernaut basically at his mercy not fighting back and accepting the statement that war hulk can kill him. yes it did not happen on panel but i think the entire issue leads us to accept that it could happen if war hulk desided to di it. i mean whats the point of all that if not to show us that hulk with celestial tech reached that kind of power level. the writer simply didnt want to kill and behead juggernaut but he did want to tell us he can be dead in this fight. how else could he do so?
Originally posted by carver9
I doubt that. Onslaught was pinching holes in high Heralds. PINCHING. I don't care how strong you think Doomsday is, he isn't doing anything like that. So Doomsday replicating what Onslaught did is slim at best.
This made me lol. I know its the phone's autocorrect function, but the fact it was edited, AND spelled twice, with emphasis, makes me imagine Onslaught pinching him.
Originally posted by Dareangel
why do you believe it should be considered hyperbole? the writer shows us war hulk stopping the juggernaut while cain is surprised as hell someone overpowered his powers. then we see juggernaut basically at his mercy not fighting back and accepting the statement that war hulk can kill him. yes it did not happen on panel but i think the entire issue leads us to accept that it could happen if war hulk desided to di it. i mean whats the point of all that if not to show us that hulk with celestial tech reached that kind of power level. the writer simply didnt want to kill and behead juggernaut but he did want to tell us he can be dead in this fight. how else could he do so?
For one, Cain can not die. We also saw him lose his entire body mass on panel so whether or not the sword was capable of cleaving his head off or not, the fact still remains that it probably wouldn't have killed him. Not trying to take anything away from War Hulk, but I'm also not trying to give him anything that we didn't actually see on panel either.
Originally posted by Cogito
Meh, he adapted to Guardian Oan energies, he adapted to Waverider's chronal energies, I don't see any particular reason why he shouldn't be able to adapt to the gem given the opportunity
Yeah, and I don't see why Cytorrak couldn't just give him enough power to crush Doomsday from the start, after all the destruction that these two would cause would certainly please Cytorrak. Unless of course Doomsday is above Cytorrak?