Originally posted by CosmicComet
Yeah, he wins by canceling out Hulk's healing factor by *punching him very hard*, like he did the first time. 🙂
It's like I said. Two people can read the exact same thing, and come out with two completely different conclusions. Zeus laced his punches with magic. No smiley face required.
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Originally posted by CosmicComet
Do you?You keep making these crap suppositions and speculations that aren't supported by text anywhere.
All it said was Hulk got hit by Zeus, and his strength and HF was comprised as a result. It was pure power, that was the answer, hence the bolding of Zeus' name in particular.
As if to say "Lol you just fought Zeus bruh. You really think you'd walk it off like that?"
Until you can prove otherwise, Occam's Razor tells us what we need to know.
Zeus punched Hulk. Had superficial lightning drawn around his fists. Hitting Hulk weakened his strength and healing for a long time. End of.
Until you can prove otherwise.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Do you not think it possible (you, carver9) that a Skyfather can physically beat the HF out of Hulk?
Like, I'm completely ignorant on this subject so feel free to tell me I'm being stupid here but, if we're talking about a being limited to physical capabilities then it doesn't matter what there position in the cosmic hierarchy is. Skyfather, Omega level mutant, whatever. You can't PHYSICALLY beat a healing factor out of someone unless said healing factor has demonstrated upper limits or the damage they deal is too much for the healing factor to repair.
Originally posted by Stoic
I'll have to disagree with you there. I don't care if you throw in the Sky Father title as some proof. The fact is that the Hulk has been reduced to a near skeleton on panel, and healed from it within moments. The injuries that he sustained from Zeus on panel were less than that. All the same, I see no reason to drag this out. Zeus would win again if they faced off again, because once again, he would charge up his fists, and turn the Hulk's HF off.
This seems logical to me though it seems possible that it's simply an inconsistent HF showing of Hulk's rather then Zeus turning it off with magic.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Like, I'm completely ignorant on this subject so feel free to tell me I'm being stupid here but, if we're talking about a being limited to physical capabilities then it doesn't matter what there position in the cosmic hierarchy is. Skyfather, Omega level mutant, whatever. You can't PHYSICALLY beat a healing factor out of someone unless said healing factor has demonstrated upper limits or the damage they deal is too much for the healing factor to repair.
That's the point of a healing factor...to heal through beatings and Hulk has the best healing factor in comics.
Yeah. It seems illogical to me that anybody could physically beat it out of him. Especially when the damage dealt was seemingly less then what Hulk's been healed from in the past ( apparently he's healed as a skeleton? ).
The only options therefore are
- Zeus can NOT physically beat the HF out of Hulk.
- It was an inconsistent showing.
- Some bullshit excuse about Zeus dealing internal unforeseen damage that was super long lasting. This seems like reaching at best.
Originally posted by iceman24567
I highly doubt he could heal from being reduced nearly to skeleton dozens upon dozens of times which is my point. The fact that Zeus' attacks did such substantial damage to Hulk despite his base durability is prove enough to me that Zeus is a good deal above him healing be damned.
This seems to be reaching... Like, why did Zeus's attacks not show themselves to be as damaging as reducing Hulk to a skeleton if they were more powerful. That doesn't make sense unless they were magical.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
2. Carver, is that REALLY your logical thinking? 'The board doesn't even think Zeus is trans (i.e. HH), so rather than convince them, I will sell the idea that a HH can turn the Hulk's HF off, just like that'.
What, physically? Why?
If you're saying magically then I don't think Carver disagreed with that unless I'm missing something.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I know you were trying to divert attention from the questions. You're very transparent.So Zeus now made a spell that took out exactly 93% of the HF, and hit Hulk with said spell, and it worked like a charm first time, without prep, on the fly.
Despite Zeus never displaying having such a spell, or Hulk ever succumbing to a spell like this.
This is a good point. I didn't know Hulk still had some of his healing factor left. But then couldn't Zeus have simply granted part of his healing factor back after taking it away during the fight?
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Hey man, I don't know. I've never even read the comics.Maybe he realized he wouldn't be able to put the Hulk down without using something like that though?
Regardless isn't charging up your fists with lightning kind of cheating in what's supposed to be a physical fight anyways?
I would advise you to read it as the fight wasn't even close.
Oh you mean like how Hulk can amp his own strength in a fight hitting things?