Rematch Hulk vs Zeus

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Thanks for posting the scans! You saved me some work since I was going to do the same. 🙂

Contrary to your pre-emptive interpretation, the exact opposite is true. As per Hephaestus' explanation, Hulk being *hit* by Zeus weakened him so much that his healing factor AND strength won't return "for a long time".

Zeus cancelled Hulk's HF alright. By [b]hitting him. Very hard. 🙂

And we know he didn't use a spell to just 'turn it off', because as per Hephaestus, it is gradually expected to return. Sounds like an injury. 🙂 [/B]

You know you can be "hit" by a spell from somebody and that a spells effects don't have to last forever and in fact more often then not fade over time similar to an injury?

Originally posted by -K-M-
I would advise you to read it as the fight wasn't even close.

Oh you mean like how Hulk can amp his own strength in a fight hitting things?

Oh I'm not saying it was. From what I can tell Hulk got stomped. But that's not particularly relevant to the matter of what happened with Hulk's healing factor.

Hulk wasn't the one trying to bring himself down to Zeus's level though...

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
You know you can be "hit" by a spell from somebody and that a spells effects don't have to last forever and in fact more often then not fade over time similar to an injury?

Read the rest of my posts.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
This seems to be reaching... Like, why did Zeus's attacks not show themselves to be as damaging as reducing Hulk to a skeleton if they were more powerful. That doesn't make sense unless they were magical.

The same writer had Hulk healing instantly from consistent holes being punched in him. He is well aware of how powerful Hulk healing factor is which is the reason he had everyone and their grandma attacking it, trying to get rid of it through the entire World at War arc.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Shut up

Yes maam.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Oh I'm not saying it was. From what I can tell Hulk got stomped. But that's not particularly relevant to the matter of what happened with Hulk's healing factor.

Hulk wasn't the one trying to bring himself down to Zeus's level though...

there is no evidence those charged fists were magical spells to nerf his healing factor

He did bring himself down to his level, Zeus has shown to toss a legit mountain onto a titan. He's a god of lightening, similar to Thor has sparks of lightening and electricity doesn't mean he amped his physical strength. As said in the story he could vaporize Hulk in a second, but decided not to and fought him with his strength.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Guess you could explain it as Hulk's HF working overtime to keep from getting demolished by Zeus, and his whole nervous system was like "I'm done." afterward.

This whole argument of: Hulk's came back from deeper level of injuries is equivalent to saying he can't get knocked out.

"Oh he can back from a near skeleton, he can't get knocked out because that's just your brain hitting your skull. Lower level."

Obviously, that's stupid.

And no, Zeus showed he was a man of his word, completely. He said he would beat Hulk with his hands instead of simply erasing him from existence. He proceeded to do exactly that. He beat Hulk with Grecian fisticuffs.

And LOL @ Carver's idiotic semantic argument. I've never seen so desperate a parsing of words. And of course, its wrong anyway.

"You got hit" =/= "You got hit once".

That's a good point but like I said isn't it reaching to assume that the damage he was healing from over the course of their fight was equivalent to being disintegrated down to the bone?

Like it would have to have been pretty much ALL internal given the external damage didn't show anything close.

Like would multiple blows that completely shattered his internals and been healed by Hulk's HF every time before taking another punch and getting exhausted be equivalent?

How long did their fight go on for?

The arguments to justify that Hulk didn't just simply get the fukcing shit beaten out of him are as bad as "Zeus only won because his arms are longer!!" I had seen when it happened.

Originally posted by -K-M-
there is no evidence those charged fists were magical spells to nerf his healing factor

He did bring himself down to his level, Zeus has shown to toss a legit mountain onto a titan. He's a god of lightening, similar to Thor has sparks of lightening and electricity doesn't mean he amped his physical strength. As said in the story he could vaporize Hulk in a second, but decided not to and fought him with his strength.

He obviously amped himself. Zeus made Hulk look like a midget in height by the end of that scuffle. He was HUGE. Hulk is 12 ft and Zeus still towered him and no, that's not an average height for Zeus.

Originally posted by carver9
Yes maam.

Originally posted by -K-M-
there is no evidence those charged fists were magical spells to nerf his healing factor

He did bring himself down to his level, Zeus has shown to toss a legit mountain onto a titan. He's a god of lightening, similar to Thor has sparks of lightening and electricity doesn't mean he amped his physical strength. As said in the story he could vaporize Hulk in a second, but decided not to and fought him with his strength.

Sure but it seems like a plausible suggestion tbh.

Can Hulk not toss mountains? People tell me he's superman level in strength and I though superman is like planet level physically.

Yeah but you said Zeus agreed to fistacuffs. You don't think he could control his lightning and simply not use it during the fight?

Here is the entire fight...

Like, I just honestly don't think that whatever internal damage Hulk was suffering and healing from from Zeus's blows is equivalent to healing from a skeleton tbh.

It seems more plausible that Zeus used magic to depower his HF then that his physical blows exhausted it.

Going to agree with Caver here.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Sure but it's a plausible suggestion tbh.

Can Hulk not toss mountains? People tell me he's superman level in strength and I though superman is like planet level strength.

Yeah but you said Zeus agreed to fistacuffs. You don't he could control his lightning and simply not use it during the fight?

It's not. When there is no factual evidence to support an argument it holds no weight

You're not familiar with comic characters are you? Not a bad thing, but just wondering what your background is and what your familiar with so I can give comparisons

Because he showed ligtening blasts earlier and that is what could have vaporized him. The whole point was he wanted to nerf himself to Hulk's level. So now you're argument maybe he didn't? Even Hera called on Zeus to break the oath as he (hulk) is a monster. However, Zeus refused and said "the word of Zeus. Your terms beast"

@KM

Sorry. I don't think I trust Zeus's word on keeping it a fisticuffs match only anymore...

.....read the next page after that. Not sure if your trolling now.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
That's a good point but like I said isn't it reaching to assume that the damage he was healing from over the course of their fight was equivalent to being disintegrated down to the bone?

Like it would have to have been pretty much ALL internal given the external damage didn't show anything close.

Like would multiple blows that completely shattered his internals and been healed by Hulk's HF every time before taking another punch and getting exhausted be equivalent?

How long did their fight go on for?

What is a reach is coming up with explanations don't exist anywhere in-text.

People saying Zeus somehow "laced his fists with healing factor and strength mitigating spells" are making tall claims that need proof. That's how it works.

Zeus beat Hulk down. That's what Hephestus said, that's what was shown, and pure power was the only reason implied.

Again, Occam's Razor tells us which side is more likely correct. It's a put up, or shut up situation.

The lightning around his fists was a superficial artistic effect until proven otherwise. Seeing as said lightning was not pointed out in the story as a detail, at all. Anywhere. It's only being brought up by zealots looking for excuses for Hulk's loss.

Once more, the Carver and Stoic argument is essentially saying it is impossible for Hulk to lose by mere KO, ever. Even though it has happened over and over.