Hulk high Herald (could increase depending on mindset)
New 52 Superman High Herald
New 52 Black Adam mid Herald
Pre Black Adam high Herald
New 52 Billy low to Mid Herald
Pre Billy High Herald
Frankenstein Mid Herald
New 52 Aquaman low Herald
Diana both are High Herald
Uncuffed Diana trans tier
First Born trans tier
DCNU Orion High herald
Jane High Herald
KMC Flash trans tier
Beta Ray High Herald
Current Nova mid Herald
Blue Marvel High Herald
Death seed Sentry trans tier
Cyborg high meta
DCNU Martian Manhunter high Herald
Morlun mid Herald
An updated list has been attempted many times before, and never successfully, but good luck to you 👆
I'm just going to point out a couple that I think are 2+ tiers off
DOS Doomsday from low herald (wtf?) to high herald
General/Shaggy Man from mid herald to trans
Imperiex Probes from mid herald to at least high herald (regular Superman, who was HH, was ineffective until he went balls out)
Originally posted by carver9👆 I actually agree with most of this.
Hulk high Herald (could increase depending on mindset)
New 52 Superman High Herald
New 52 Black Adam mid Herald
Pre Black Adam high Herald
New 52 Billy low to Mid Herald
Pre Billy High Herald
Frankenstein Mid Herald
New 52 Aquaman low Herald
Diana both are High Herald
Uncuffed Diana trans tier
First Born trans tier
DCNU Orion High herald
Jane High Herald
KMC Flash trans tier
Beta Ray High Herald
Current Nova mid Herald
Blue Marvel High Herald
Death seed Sentry trans tier
Cyborg high meta
DCNU Martian Manhunter high Herald
Morlun mid Herald
Also, where would you guys put Spawn, Savage Dragon, Darkness, the Shadow, and Green Hornet?
Originally posted by carver9
Uncuffed Diana trans tier
DCNU Orion High herald
Blue Marvel High Herald
DCNU Martian Manhunter high Herald
Morlun mid Herald
Curious about these. I'm not convinced bracer-less Diana is Trans at all. Orion was easily Trans in the GL Godhead run, but no better than Mid-herald in WW. What feats does BM have to truly justify HH? Ditto DCnU MM, aside from the one page of him taking on the JL. What does Morlun have to justify Mid-herald aside from the one net feat (genuine question)?
Here's a question for people - what do you think about the mid herald tier? I actually kind of like it for those who are really powerful, but not the top dogs. I think HH should be reserved for the best (Superman, Surfer, Thor, etc) and Mid-herald should be everyone who's good but second best (WW, BRB, Gladiator, etc).
Originally posted by Cogito
Here's a question for people - what do you think about the mid herald tier? I actually kind of like it for those who are really powerful, but not the top dogs. I think HH should be reserved for the best (Superman, Surfer, Thor, etc) and Mid-herald should be everyone who's good but second best (WW, BRB, Gladiator, etc).
That's how I kind of always viewed it, tbh, so I agree with your thoughts.
Originally posted by Cogito
Curious about these. I'm not convinced bracer-less Diana is Trans at all. Orion was easily Trans in the GL Godhead run, but no better than Mid-herald in WW. What feats does BM have to truly justify HH? Ditto DCnU MM, aside from the one page of him taking on the JL. What does Morlun have to justify Mid-herald aside from the one net feat (genuine question)?Here's a question for people - what do you think about the mid herald tier? I actually kind of like it for those who are really powerful, but not the top dogs. I think HH should be reserved for the best (Superman, Surfer, Thor, etc) and Mid-herald should be everyone who's good but second best (WW, BRB, Gladiator, etc).
I would say that people like Superman, Surfer and Thor deserve to be in the trans tier after all what they have accomplished. The HH is the new MH.
Originally posted by Cogito
Curious about these. I'm not convinced bracer-less Diana is Trans at all. Orion was easily Trans in the GL Godhead run, but no better than Mid-herald in WW. What feats does BM have to truly justify HH? Ditto DCnU MM, aside from the one page of him taking on the JL. What does Morlun have to justify Mid-herald aside from the one net feat (genuine question)?Here's a question for people - what do you think about the mid herald tier? I actually kind of like it for those who are really powerful, but not the top dogs. I think HH should be reserved for the best (Superman, Surfer, Thor, etc) and Mid-herald should be everyone who's good but second best (WW, BRB, Gladiator, etc).
Uncuffed Diana not only matched Super Doom but she tied him up and carried him out of space. She also defeated First Born who is trans tier. It's an amped Wonder Woman. That alone puts her in another tier.
I'm not naming everything BM has done but the fts are there.
Morlun? I can see why you're questioning that. I put him that tier for personal reasons.
All this debate about Marvel/DC... We should be using this as an opportunity to broaden our horizons.
Valiant: Ninjak and Archer to High Street, Bloodshot, Eternal Warrior, Armstrong and Shadowman to Low Meta. X-O Manowar to High Meta. Divinity to Trans.
Dynamite: Doc Savage to High street, Shadow to Low Meta.
Originally posted by carver9
Uncuffed Diana not only matched Super Doom but she tied him up and carried him out of space. She also defeated First Born who is trans tier. It's an amped Wonder Woman. That alone puts her in another tier.I'm not naming everything BM has done but the fts are there.
Morlun? I can see why you're questioning that. I put him that tier for personal reasons.
She stopped a charge aimed at Hessia with a surprise attack, and then immediately hog tied him with an unbreakable lasso.He treated her like a bug when she tried to match him strength vs strength, and afterwards she was completely and utterly unable to stop him from walking slowly forward in a straight line. After the initial 3-panel exchange (which Superdoom won, decisively and easily), the rest of the fight looked basically like Spider-Man trying to stop the Juggernaut.
Even you know how out of her league she looked, deep down, but are too stubborn and stupid to ever admit it.
Here, again, is the full issue for anyone who isn't as brain-dead as Fangirl to make up their own mind:
http://view-comic.com/superman-wonder-woman-annual-001-2014/I think we're done here.
Cheers.