Tug of war

Started by DarkSaint856 pages

Because there's a brace period (the ref shouts HOLD!). At this point, you're not allowed to pull the rope, but merely make it taut.

Then he counts down, then shots GO!

On top of that, power = strength and speed. The rate at which they can bring their strength to bear, together, is paramount. Think back to the tugs you watched...were they slow, leisurely affairs?

Of course, not saying one side is slow and leisurely. Relative to the other side? Yes.

Originally posted by Stoic
I really didn't spin anything Riv. The fact is, team DC has two characters that defy gravity innately, whereas Marvel only has one, and tug of wars mostly come down to weight. However, in this case, weight is mitigated by the ability to personally bend gravity. I'm sorry that you don't get it, but the fact remains that Hyperion, superman, and Teth all have the ability to walk on walls. The others do not.

My not agreeing with you doesnt mean i dont 'get it'. It means i disagree with you.
Its a common debate tactic to imply the other person lacks the intelligence to understand your argument, when the fact is, they just believe your argument to be flawed.
You're talking about walking on walls; you're spinning faster than dreidel at Hanukkah.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
@riv: No.

Sorry but yes.

And i have been in tugs of war; brought back trophies to several of my Units over a 20+ year span.
To quote Wuleecat:

Originally posted by wuleecat
.. I can honestly say that at no point, ever, did I overhear anyone in the crowd whisper to someone else "Boy, that team looks FAST. They're bound to win for sure" ...

...You might as well say 'Team DC wins because of the Astro Force'

So you never used speed at all?

I use extremes ('at all'😉 due to the speed extremes seen in the thread.

Did you have to hold the line, and only start pulling after the ref said go?

And then, when applying strength, was it slowly and gradually (akin to slowly bench pressing) or explosively?

Leaning toward Marvel.

I doubt that they would be caught off guard if they were already bracing and prepared. I think most tugs of war is won on in a great burst of strength in the beginning where one team loses their footing and can't get it back. I think timing could come into it if one team is stronger. that being said if they did get a speed advantage I don't think that Team 1 is so strong that the other team could get the footing back and be competitive.

if neither team falters in the start then its just a matter of footing and whether not one team has the strength to budge the other. TBH I'm on the fence on whether the 'gravity' guys add an advantage. yes they DO NOT have the footing issue I stated earlier but they do not have an anchor either. when these guys fight they get punched and fly off like all the time IF the punch is strong enough.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So you never used speed at all?

I use extremes ('at all'😉 due to the speed extremes seen in the thread.

Did you have to hold the line, and only start pulling after the ref said go?

And then, when applying strength, was it slowly and gradually (akin to slowly bench pressing) or explosively?


Your question's a loaded one, as your following statements make it pretty obvious you believe that because speed is a factor in a tug of war, characters with a speed advantage are going to make it the only factor.
Again, using whats been said in between my posts, staxamillion puts it well, and hits the dancing on the ceiling issue as well:

Originally posted by staxamillion
I doubt that they would be caught off guard if they were already bracing and prepared. I think most tugs of war is won on in a great burst of strength in the beginning where one team loses their footing and can't get it back. I think timing could come into it if one team is stronger. that being said if they did get a speed advantage I don't think that Team 1 is so strong that the other team could get the footing back and be competitive.

if neither team falters in the start then its just a matter of footing and whether not one team has the strength to budge the other. TBH I'm on the fence on whether the 'gravity' guys add an advantage. yes they DO NOT have the footing issue I stated earlier but they do not have an anchor either. when these guys fight they get punched and fly off like all the time IF the punch is strong enough.

To be clear, no issues on my part with DC winning, its just not gonna happen with Flash/Spider-man tactics.

As I said in my first post, which Ecstatic was unable to see the point of, speed plays a major factor.

Is it the only factor? No. And never said that.

Is it the same as gravity control (the umbrella of spin, as it were)? No. Speed is a pretty major factor, both in terms of getting the first good strong pull in whilst your opponents are still registering that the match has started, and in the transfer of power, which I believe to be explosively fast.

If you really don't think speed is a major factor, and equate it to gravity control....fair enough.

Originally posted by wuleecat
I'm no Tug Of War Expert, but I've seen a few. And I can honestly say that at no point, ever, did I overhear anyone in the crowd whisper to someone else "Boy, that team looks FAST. They're bound to win for sure" Sure, Superman is fast. But what's that got to do with being able to drag a rope with weight on the end of it? You might as well say 'Team DC wins because of the Astro Force'

Think of an arm wrestling match, and how one guy will try and jump the other guy for an early advantage, if not an easy win against an unprepared opponent.

Nobody wants to be disqualified by starting too early, but everybody wants that edge, so that's where speed/reaction time comes into play.

Replacing Orion and Thor with Juggernaut and Citizen Steel could be interesting.

Steel hasn't been moved when he braces himself, and Juggernaut has that momentum thing on his side (Is it against the rules for him to turn around and walk in the opposite direction? 🙂 )

*thinking to myself*

tho if the flyers were flying at the full strength as well as using full back and arm strength could be an advantage. I could see that gravity advantage...

This is Tug Of War. Why are we bringing flight, gravity, and speed into the equation? As the OP stated, they are just pulling with all the strength they have.

Originally posted by tkitna
This is Tug Of War. Why are we bringing flight, gravity, and speed into the equation? As the OP stated, they are just pulling with all the strength they have.

Basically. People try way to hard.

Originally posted by carver9
Basically. People try way to hard.

Oh, the irony!

Originally posted by tkitna
This is Tug Of War. Why are we bringing flight, gravity, and speed into the equation? As the OP stated, they are just pulling with all the strength they have.

Because some people are desperate to have DC win.

Originally posted by tkitna
This is Tug Of War. Why are we bringing flight, gravity, and speed into the equation? As the OP stated, they are just pulling with all the strength they have.

This.

Don't get me wrong, this thread is hilarious. I can't wait to see what non-factor comes gets lugged in next from the sidelines to confuse things. Maybe it matters what kind of footwear they're wearing?

Although I concede the speed thing makes more sense with the arm-wrestling analogy. Kind of like quick-draw, right?

Pretty much.

Lol indeed. Next, someone is going to bring other hilarious powers into play, like Hulks ability to amp.

I'm assuming as we're ignoring abilities like speed etc, we ignore that, right?

Problem is - and don't take offence Carv - the wording of the OP. Everyone is pulling with quote all the strength they have unquote.

That means you have to pick the absolute best strength feat that each one of those six has done in their current incarnation (forum rules, right?) and then try and impossibly measure up three on one side against three on the other.

Plus what's the rope made from ?

In the end it's just funnier to add in stuff about anti-gravity, Juggernaut enchantment, tying Thor's hammer to the rope etc. It makes for far more amusing reading, as long as people don't lose their cool about stuff.

I remember watching tug of war and seeing them wearing huge, heavy ammunition boots so they could dig in and anchor themselves better. What size feet would Hulk have - about size fifty? Once those puppies got dug in they'd be hard to shift.

the end it's just funnier to add in stuff about anti-gravity, Juggernaut enchantment, tying Thor's hammer to the rope etc. It makes for far more amusing reading, as long as people don't lose their cool about stuff.

I'm interested in what'd happen if the Marvel team let go of the rope 'Revenge of the Nerds' style.
1. Would team DC fly off the face of the earth because they were pulling at twice the speed of light?
2. Would they go nowhere because they were anchored to the ground with their sudden Spider-man sticking powers?
3. Would they break in half, as the opposing theories collided?

Originally posted by riv6672
I'm interested in what'd happen if the Marvel team let go of the rope 'Revenge of the Nerds' style.
1. Would team DC fly off the face of the earth because they were pulling at twice the speed of light?
2. Would they go nowhere because they were anchored to the ground with their sudden Spider-man sticking powers?
3. Would they break in half, as the opposing theories collided?

Closer to 2 but none of the above your forgetting they have "gravity powers"...

And fadt enough reactions to stop themselves.

But if we're ignoring everything about the characters save for strength, then we should be consistent, right?