Tug of war

that's my bad... OP said strength not skills.

It sure as heck didnt say super speed gravity powers. 😆

Originally posted by riv6672
It sure as heck didnt say super speed gravity powers. 😆

Nor Hulk's famed amping, 'the madder he gets, the stronger he gets' powers either!

I love that even though you are obviously wrong as two boys at Michael Jackson's house you just keep swinging.

Plus i'll likely end up agreeing with you in the next 20 threads you opine in, so this is a fun abberation.

Originally posted by riv6672
I love that even though you are obviously wrong as two boys at Michael Jackson's house you just keep swinging.

Plus i'll likely end up agreeing with you in the next 20 threads you opine in, so this is a fun abberation.

I'm wrong? I didn't see where OP said Hulk could amp his strength.

Oh, I know it's part of his powerset. But then, so is superspeed/flight.

Point being, it's very difficult to quantify how much of Superman's feats are based on his speed/flight. After all, when pushing planets/moons/whatever, he's usually flying. So SOME thrust is being provided by his 'flying muscle'.

Just as an example:

A small scale feat, relative to the others in this thread, sure - but it illustrates my point. How much of his pulling is due to his arm/shoulder/back muscles, and how much is due to his flight?

Here is another pulling feat. Again, how to separate his flying from his physical muscles?

Wow, Eternity itself.

The Earth tug was clearly PIS if he can lift eternity AND infinity.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

A small scale feat, relative to the others in this thread, sure - but it illustrates my point. How much of his pulling is due to his arm/shoulder/back muscles, and how much is due to his flight?

Exactly PG, thanks.

How much is due to Hype's 'flight muscle', and how much is due to his strength?

Riv is laughing at the concept that other powers are in play. Speed, from me, and Stoic's gravity control.

But it's very difficult to separate pure strength from their other powers.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm wrong? I didn't see where OP said Hulk could amp his strength.

Great minds think alike, fools seldom differ 😛

Wasn't a scan dump by my measure, ha - but it illustrates my point.

If speed/flight is to be ignored (and we got strictly by OP), then other abilities should be ignored, too.

Speed IS indeed a major factor in tugs of war, which was my original point.

Nice quote. I use it myself, bur never in petulance.

All said and done though, your argument's wrong, the gravity argument is ridiculous, and i'm okay with both these things.
Not much else to say, as you ARE getting petulant and its not a good look on you.
See you in the next thread, where you should be back to your logical self.

Originally posted by riv6672
Nice quote. I use it myself, bur never in petulance.

All said and done though, your argument's wrong, the gravity argument is ridiculous, and i'm okay with both these things.
Not much else to say, as you ARE getting petulant and its not a good look on you.
See you in the next thread, where you should be back to your logical self.

I'm really not! But....I guess protesting gets me nowhere.

Flight/thrust assisting strength feats is the oldest concept on this site that kinda remains to be officially recognized.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Flight/thrust assisting strength feats is the oldest concept on this site that kinda remains to be officially recognized.

👆 They are one and the same, and it's incredibly difficult to separate the two.

So if a thread says strength, and we take the letter of the OP in hand...

I wouldn't say that. Nova is arguably just as fast as Hyperion but you wouldn't win an argument saying he could do that same feat Hyperion did. You have to be super strong for a lot of these things but at the same time a lot of these feats are dependent of a character's ability to move through space using whatever means of propulsion they have, or remain stationary in a friction-less environment

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Great minds think alike, fools seldom differ 😛

Wasn't a scan dump by my measure, ha - but it illustrates my point.

If speed/flight is to be ignored (and we got strictly by OP), then other abilities should be ignored, too.

Speed IS indeed a major factor in tugs of war, which was my original point.

Originally posted by JBL
Strength IS the major factor in a tug of war. Do you think flash can Beat superman, WW and Orion on his superior speed ?

Given equal strength, Juggernaut would still win cause he will always advance due to a secondary power aiding his first one

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Traction with the ground and rope is also just as important

Given equal strength, Juggernaut would still win cause he will always advance due to a secondary power aiding his first one

Originally posted by JBL
Strength IS the major factor in a tug of war. Do you think flash can Beat superman, WW and Orion on his superior speed ?

Yes.