Originally posted by Sin I AMlol? I can back it all up but the issue here and now is you asking others to back up a claim you have which is inexplicable cause of lack of evidence...now you're asking me to back up my claims?
Cheerleading for the wrong team luv. If someone makes a reference why not back it up?
Avengers #1 is a start
There are more then one fight, 1 where he is fighting Iron Man, Herc, Namor, Wonder Man then Samson comes in.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
lol? I can back it all up but the issue here and now is you asking others to back up a claim you have which is inexplicable cause of lack of evidence...now you're asking me to back up my claims?Avengers #1 is a start
Backup? What are you blathering about? I initially made a statement that teams always hold back when dealing with heroes that r friends. Rarely if ever do they go all out. Someone is always pulling punches/holding back/mind controlled etc. Carver made the claim Hulk beat a non holding back team. I simply asked for the issue number because i recall no such incident. To wit he provided none..i had a feeling he was talking about mindless hulk incident but wasnt sure.
Instead of sidelining...coming in on the ass end of a thread with your pom poms ablazing trying to capn-sav-a-hoe maybe you should scroll back a few pages and see wtf im talking about in the first place. Cease and desist the operation bro shield pg. Its unbecoming a senior member.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
This is about as backhanded as compliments get, and I'm not sure whether the fact Delta probably genuinely DOES consider it a TRUE compliment makes it better or worse.
Power Girl is a C-Lister, and treated as such. For example, even though she's got stuff to put her physically above Wonder Woman, she's not going to win without extenuating circumstances.
Not sure what you're going on about anyways. Unless I killed your buzz over that performance with the fact it was specifically noted that those under control were less formidable due to the mind control. Something you ignored so you could push the showing in the thread you saw it in. 🙄
Galvatron! GALVATRON!
UK Simon Furman version.
He's the king of taking down teams. In the dictionary, his picture is next to "team beater". He terrorized both factions, traumatized Ultra Magnus, gave the Dinobots their worst beating ever, and even defeated combiner team Sea Cons individually AND as Piranacon underwater.
He pretty much single handedly won the Autobot and Decepticon war, going by Galvatron's memories of when he was Megatron, a feat he was well on his way to completing if not for a massive time storm ripping him to shreds.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
Incredible Hulk #322. This is after fighting almost all the Avengers, FF and heroes for hire while steadily weakening.Your homework is done for you
Did i not state that i did not remember Milgroms work and only recalled Byrnes? But sure thx for doing whatever it is you think you've done
Originally posted by Sin I AMThere was more to it, but I guess your account was hacked, then 👆
Did i not state that i did not remember Milgroms work and only recalled Byrnes? But sure thx for doing whatever it is you think you've done
Originally posted by Sin I AM
I remember the byrne issues before he left the book. I just dont remember the milgrom ones. I also didnt remember photon being there or jen fighting. The whole set up was that Hulk was no longer holding back. Byrne even used the deer death at the beginning of the arc to showcase hulk was out to kill. Any other hulk wouldve just approached the deer, looked sad as it bolted and then leaped away. This hulk was a killer. Someone also said Hulk was growing weaker in that arc.. He wasnt. Correct me if im wrong but when Samson separated them Banner was the one that was on his death bed...hulk was fine.n
Originally posted by Delta1938Not sure what you're going on about anyways. Unless I killed your buzz over that performance with the fact it was specifically noted that those under control were less formidable due to the mind control. Something you ignored so you could push the showing in the thread you saw it in.
I don't like the character very much; there's no buzz to kill.
Originally posted by Delta1938
Power Girl is a C-Lister, and treated as such. For example, even though she's got stuff to put her physically above Wonder Woman, she's not going to win without extenuating circumstances.
Got a bit of a problem with this, though.
You seem to be saying stars get more props, and SHOULD get more props, simply because they're stars. Whether that's your thinking or not, that's definitely the way a lot of fans think and what you seem to be an advocate of.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I don't like the character very much; there's no buzz to kill.Got a bit of a problem with this, though.
You seem to be saying stars get more props, and SHOULD get more props, simply because they're stars. Whether that's your thinking or not, that's definitely the way a lot of fans think and what you seem to be an advocate of.
You don't care for the character much, but still pushed the showing as if it were context free even after being shown the context(including the whole brain cap shorting thing that you ignored). mhmm Guess it's just your hate for Superman.
I said stars get more props, yes. SHOULD get more props? Nope. That's at best you misinterpreting what I said. Pointing-out why that's a very good showing for a C-Lister is advocating anything?
Originally posted by Delta1938
You don't care for the character much, but still pushed the showing as if it were context free even after being shown the context(including the whole brain cap shorting thing that you ignored). mhmm Guess it's just your hate for Superman.
Actually, I like Power Girl a lot LESS than Superman. I think it's a shame she exists, truthfully.
Originally posted by Delta1938
I said stars get more props, yes. SHOULD get more props? Nope. That's at best you misinterpreting what I said. Pointing-out why that's a very good showing for a C-Lister is advocating anything?
Most of the time when I hear people put forth that argument, they are indeed advocating the status quo that stars should get props because they are stars, whether or not they actually deserve them. Nevertheless, you say you're not part of that crowd, so, on that point, I apologize.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Cheerleading for the wrong team luv. If someone makes a reference why not back it up?I remember the byrne issues before he left the book. I just dont remember the milgrom ones. I also didnt remember photon being there or jen fighting. The whole set up was that Hulk was no longer holding back. Byrne even used the deer death at the beginning of the arc to showcase hulk was out to kill. Any other hulk wouldve just approached the deer, looked sad as it bolted and then leaped away. This hulk was a killer. Someone also said Hulk was growing weaker in that arc.. He wasnt. Correct me if im wrong but when Samson separated them Banner was the one that was on his death bed...hulk was fine.n
you're right, he was initially fine but as time went by he was actually getting weaker until finally he basically burned out. he was still hugely strong at one point and holding off the heroes was fairly impressive, but like i said, they weren't going for the kill until really the very end of the fight when hulk was burning out so impressive, but not as impressive as it is sometimes made out to be imo. especially considering how long samson alone was able to battle him and stay conscious, /shrug
Originally posted by leonidas
http://imgur.com/sX6xU5Byou're right, he was initially fine but as time went by he was actually getting weaker until finally he basically burned out. he was still hugely strong at one point and holding off the heroes was fairly impressive, but like i said, they weren't going for the kill until really the very end of the fight when hulk was burning out so impressive, but not as impressive as it is sometimes made out to be imo. especially considering how long samson alone was able to battle him and stay conscious, /shrug
I read it again. Looked it over. Thing is when Byrne was writing the book hulk was fine. There initial separation didn't affect him negatively so when he went apeshit in the desert he was at optimal levels when facing the avengers. However after the wedding and rick getting shot etc...milgrom took over and wrote in the changes weakness/dying as a result of being seperated from banner. Then they remerged and he was more intelligent.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Actually, I like Power Girl a lot LESS than Superman. I think it's a shame she exists, truthfully.Most of the time when I hear people put forth that argument, they are indeed advocating the status quo that stars should get props because they are stars, whether or not they actually deserve them. Nevertheless, you say you're not part of that crowd, so, on that point, I apologize.
You "think it's a shame she exists, truthfully" but ignored the context when given to you. mhmm
Apology accepted.