Originally posted by DarthAnt66
ANH Kenobi is unquestionably an inferior lightsaber duelist, both in Legends and Canon.
I'm not exactly sure what you're saying at the start there.
I'm comparing the ANH fight with Tano vs Vader using the comic, novel, and encyclopedic-based material, primarily.
No. The new "Star Wars" comics established Kenobi's lightsaber abilities got rusty even in the new Canon. That makes sense, since he only picks up a lightsaber twice in 19 years (his fight vs Maul included).
The issue with that quote is that it doesn't take higher canonical authority than the website, which decisively establishes Maul as the more powerful opponent. The quote also doesn't make a lot of sense. It seems to be suggesting even Palpatine or Talzin would be out of their game if Yoda confronted them, despite us knowing that a Yoda vs Palpatine confrontation would be equal or leaning Palpatine. Same applies for his comments on Ahsoka: we see Tano vs Maul fight and blatantly see that Maul can "match her in this time period blow for blow." As silly as the argument seems, I'd have to say Filoni just forgot about Maul when making the statement in the same way he forgot about Palpatine with the Yoda one.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I'm not exactly sure what you're saying at the start there.I'm comparing the ANH fight with Tano vs Vader using the comic, novel, and encyclopedic-based material, primarily.
No. The new "Star Wars" comics established Kenobi's lightsaber abilities got rusty even in the new Canon. That makes sense, since he only picks up a lightsaber twice in 19 years (his fight vs Maul included).
The issue with that quote is that it doesn't take higher canonical authority than the website, which decisively establishes Maul as the more powerful opponent. The quote also doesn't make a lot of sense. It seems to be suggesting even Palpatine or Talzin would be out of their game if Yoda confronted them, despite us knowing that a Yoda vs Palpatine confrontation would be equal or leaning Palpatine. Same applies for his comments on Ahsoka: we see Tano vs Maul fight and blatantly see that Maul can "match her in this time period blow for blow." As silly as the argument seems, I'd have to say Filoni just forgot about Maul when making the statement in the same way he forgot about Palpatine with the Yoda one.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I'm not exactly sure what you're saying at the start there.I'm comparing the ANH fight with Tano vs Vader using the comic, novel, and encyclopedic-based material, primarily.
No. The new "Star Wars" comics established Kenobi's lightsaber abilities got rusty even in the new Canon. That makes sense, since he only picks up a lightsaber twice in 19 years (his fight vs Maul included).
The issue with that quote is that it doesn't take higher canonical authority than the website, which decisively establishes Maul as the more powerful opponent. The quote also doesn't make a lot of sense. It seems to be suggesting even Palpatine or Talzin would be out of their game if Yoda confronted them, despite us knowing that a Yoda vs Palpatine confrontation would be equal or leaning Palpatine. Same applies for his comments on Ahsoka: we see Tano vs Maul fight and blatantly see that Maul can "match her in this time period blow for blow." As silly as the argument seems, I'd have to say Filoni just forgot about Maul when making the statement in the same way he forgot about Palpatine with the Yoda one.
Wasn't the Ahsoka quote from before Maul's debut? If so, then it'd make sense that Filoni wasn't interested in spoiling Maul.
And he did say once that nobody could compete with the Emperor and that Sidious was better than anybody else. He arguably "forgot about Yoda" there too.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Wasn't the Ahsoka quote from before Maul's debut? If so, then it'd make sense that Filoni wasn't interested in spoiling Maul.And he did say once that nobody could compete with the Emperor and that Sidious was better than anybody else. He arguably "forgot about Yoda" there too.
Maul's combative abilities, not Maul himself. Given that what we see in the episode blatantly contradicts that statement, I'm kind of inclined to take it with a grain of salt.
And no, Filoni says that Sidious had to be the strongest guy in TCW, which was his justification for him curbstomping Maul and Savage.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
She conceded inferiority to all the Masters of the Council when asking permission to go off to fight Caedus. It's directly stated.
I vaguely remember her saying this, something like they are more qualified than her to go after her brother or some such, but we all know this is kinda stupid. 😬 Unless one actually believes the likes of Cilghal, Tionne and Octa Ramis are superior to Jaina.
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As they said something like "You are only a Knight" she responded with "So is Jacen". Obviously she knew that they wouldn't care, -tho it was to her advandtadge- so she tried to blandish them, saying that they and several Knights are more skilled. So, she basically says that she isn't even in the Top 10, or might not even Top 15, of the most skilled Jedi of the NJO - which would be kinda stupid.
"I know that you Masters-and several Jedi Knights-are more skilled in both Force and lightsaber than I am. But I'm his twin sister. I'll have advantages no one else will." ---Jaina Solo to Corran Horn
Yeah, no. The quote's as direct as it gets: Jaina not being in the top ten of the LOTF era is not only likely, but pretty firmly established.
Yeah, no.
Do you really want to say that Cilghal andTionne are better en Jaina.
She has no reason to lie? She tries to Bootlick them, like I said several times. She knows that it wouldn't be fruitful when she just says "Dude, I am far better than you are".
But if she's really below the whole council in LotF, then yeah, she's prolly above Obi as of FotJ 👆
Sure. That's what Jaina said, and I have no reason to believe she was biting her tongue when saying it.
You do, but that's because you're invested in the character for whatever reason.
"Bootlicking" isn't going to work on a Jedi, especially the Jedi Council. Jaina "bootlicking" them is actually really risky. It's completely un-Jedi-like and could call into question her character, integrity, and mental state for the mission at hand. If Jaina was more skilled and powerful than them, she would leverage that to her advantage - not concede the point before they have the opportunity to raise it.