Sure. That's what Jaina said, and I have no reason to believe she was biting her tongue when saying it.
You do, but that's because you're invested in the character for whatever reason.
"Bootlicking" isn't going to work on a Jedi, especially the Jedi Council. Jaina "bootlicking" them is actually really risky. It's completely un-Jedi-like and could call into question her character, integrity, and mental state for the mission at hand. If Jaina was more skilled and powerful than them, she would leverage that to her advantage - not concede the point before they have the opportunity to raise it.
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But now to the point.
Like said in my first post, TUF Jaina > hindered Jaina ~ Lah > slightly injured Corran ~ Shai >/= Kam >(>?) DE Kam. DE Kam being able to stomp one of Palpatine's Dark Side elite adepts.
These guys should be rather easily above your average Dark Jedi, as they are being able to create Sentinels, can channel the power of deceased Sith and can create amulets and enhance weapons with Sith Alchemy.
So Jaina only as of TUF is quite vastly above DE Kam, who can stomp very powerful Dark Jedi.
'til LotF she should logically grow quite a bit, as 20 year old Skywalker.
Still, Cilghal is ahead of her as of LotF. Gaalan, who was placed with Kyp and Kyle by Luke, would've been to much for Cilghal. And yet, Jaina, the combative equal of anyone in the Order, is at least equal with Kyp and Kyle.
So, she is practically far above TUF Luke, who is quite easily superior to DE Kam, someone who can stomp Dark Side Adepts.
I honestly don't see Kenobi being that good.
Originally posted by SunRazerMaul's combative abilities, not Maul himself.
Maul's combative abilities, not Maul himself. Given that what we see in the episode blatantly contradicts that statement, I'm kind of inclined to take it with a grain of salt.And no, Filoni says that Sidious had to be the strongest guy in TCW, which was his justification for him curbstomping Maul and Savage.
Originally posted by Ursumeles
Or she was just lowballing herself, like Jacen did in TUF.
Again, lowballing herself would be extremely detrimental to her own case.
So, she's not lowballing herself. She's addressing a point that would have been raised against her on her own terms so she can quickly move on to what's actually going to support her.
Why not? If they think that she's inferior to them, it's better for her to agree with them instead of arguing with them. After all, her only real goal was fighting Caedus herself - something she can't do when the Council don't wants it. So she tries everything possible that she can fight Caedus.
Exactly. Hence why lowballing herself / "bootlicking" the Council wouldn't work.
If she wants to try everything possible that can help her fight Caedus, she's not going to do something that would help her not fight Caedus.
If they think she's inferior to them, there's a reason.
But now to the point.
Like said in my first post, TUF Jaina > hindered Jaina ~ Lah > slightly injured Corran ~ Shai >/= Kam >(>?) DE Kam. DE Kam being able to stomp one of Palpatine's Dark Side elite adepts.
TUF Jaina isn't more powerful nor skilled than any of the Jedi Council, so no.
Corran was roughly on par with Shai at the start of the Yuuzhan Vong (i.e. 25 ABY). It was so close to the start of the war that Chewbacca's funeral actually took place after Corran defeated Shai. Jaina's triumph over Lah takes place three years later: three years of further adapting to Yuuzhan Vong technology, strategy, strengths, etc. Corran Horn by 28 ABY would almost certainly defeat Lah.
Why?
Because he's stated to be better than Jaina in LOTF. 😬
You're not geting around that.
Any scaling you do for Jaina Solo prior to that time-period will be dismissed due to her inferiority to the entire Council as of LOTF.
Any scaling you do for Jaina Solo after that time-period will be dismissed because the notion of a dramatic jump in abilities to that above Kenobi is absurd.
These guys should be rather easily above your average Dark Jedi, as they are being able to create Sentinels, can channel the power of deceased Sith and can create amulets and enhance weapons with Sith Alchemy.So Jaina only as of TUF is quite vastly above DE Kam, who can stomp very powerful Dark Jedi.
Irrelevant if LOTF Jaina is still inferior to the Jedi Council.
'til LotF she should logically grow quite a bit, as 20 year old Skywalker.
Apparently she grew less than Solusar did, if she was superior to him at some point but is behind him in LOTF.
Still, Cilghal is ahead of her as of LotF.
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Gaalan, who was placed with Kyp and Kyle by Luke, would've been to much for Cilghal. And yet, Jaina, the combative equal of anyone in the Order, is at least equal with Kyp and Kyle.
So Jaina was inferior to Cilghal in LotF, but surpassed her by FOTJ.
Great. She's better than the worst of the Council.
She's still tiers away from scratching Obi-Wan Kenobi.
So, she is practically far above TUF Luke,
who is quite easily superior to DE Kam, someone who can stomp Dark Side Adepts.I honestly don't see Kenobi being that good.
You don't see Kenobi being above Cilghal (the only character Jaina's confirmed to be superior by the end of FOTJ)?