Originally posted by beatboksha, no. Snake eyes is easily a bullet timer and almost every version of him is resistant to mind control. The guy's easily blitzed entire companies of Cobra soldiers, killed cyborgs, sensed enemies that nobody else (including jinx and stormshadow) could see, and his pain tolerance is within the punisher/joker tier. This is a good fight no matter what you might think.
Any version of the Shadow wins.
Dynamite version doesnt even break a sweat
Originally posted by deathslashNot that it changes anything, but Grendel is a casual bullet-timer as well:
Snake eyes is easily a bullet timer
...Yet The Shadow beat him rather decisively -- and beat him in a book written by the creator of Grendel, no less(which is ALWAYS more impressive, tbh.)
At any rate, I would still put Snake Eyes *marginally* above The Shadow. IOW, Snake Eyes would win(as leo mentioned, some of his feats are just asinine), but Lamont would give him a great fight every single time... In fact, I personally view the difference between Snake Eyes and Lamont, being akin to the difference between Lamont and Grendel. /shrug
*For those who may not have seen the Grendel/Shadow battle:
http://i.imgur.com/KMC0llT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FU2to6p.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/N5nlHL3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/28S9ljI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yhwFzti.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MHy53U0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/R5WmIJ4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AneYG1H.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/EqjZJos.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FK1eA24.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pD3cyli.jpg
Originally posted by Galan007
Not that it changes anything, but Grendel is a casual bullet-timer as well:...Yet The Shadow beat him rather decisively -- and beat him in a book written by the creator of Grendel, no less(which is ALWAYS more impressive, tbh.)
At any rate, I would still put Snake Eyes *marginally* above The Shadow. IOW, Snake Eyes would win(as leo mentioned, some of his feats are just asinine), but Lamont would give him a great fight every single time... In fact, I personally view the difference between Snake Eyes and Lamont, being akin to the difference between Lamont and Grendel. /shrug
*For those who may not have seen the Grendel/Shadow battle:
http://i.imgur.com/KMC0llT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FU2to6p.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/N5nlHL3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/28S9ljI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yhwFzti.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MHy53U0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/R5WmIJ4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AneYG1H.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/EqjZJos.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FK1eA24.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pD3cyli.jpg
nice. you and i are about the only grendel fans i know round here and that is a good showing. like i said, didn't know much about shadow but he is tougher than i thought. i just knew snake was a beast.
btw was that a xover book or something?
Originally posted by leonidasthere was a rematch later in the Grendel vs Shadow arc. Grendel did much better and was actually looking quite impressive considering that he was fighting the shadow and ate a few bullets from some other gangsters.
grendel is great. that scene against the shadow is pretty impressive but it seems a little like one of the underestimation cases. be interesting to see a rematch, if there was one.
Originally posted by leonidasThere was a rematch so-to-speak.
grendel is great. that scene against the shadow is pretty impressive but it seems a little like one of the underestimation cases. be interesting to see a rematch, if there was one.
Grendel had been shot in the side just beforehand, but was relatively unaffected by the wound. Lamont had no weaponry aside from his dual blades. That said, Lamont was still portrayed as slightly superior, given that he actually drew [a considerable amount of] blood, whereas Grendel drew none at all. The *only* reason Grendel escaped is because his staff electrocuted Lamont -- an attack that Lamont shrugged off immediately afterward, btw, which is an impressive feat in itself:
Lamont has also casually owned Kato with a single strike:
http://i.imgur.com/Fnq4s3q.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/StWeLlg.jpg
Like I said, the dude is definitely legit. He tends to be massively underrated, though -- mostly written off as some pulpy/feeble, Golden Age character or whathaveyou. Obviously not the case. 👆
