TPM Obi Wan Kenobi vs. Kao Cen Darach (Lightsabers only)

Originally posted by SunRazer
KotOR referred to the Jedi being in their prime with respect to the number of skilled warriors running around. Lucas' word on the PT being the prime of the Jedi (and I believe there are other quotes) make it clear they're referring to the PT era constituting the peak of Jedi skill.

Frankly, I very much doubt Lucas was referring to specifically the PT era and not the Old Republic in its entirety, given his comparison was with the OT. It's consistent within the actual PT era that the Jedi are weakened due to the growing presence of the dark-side after all. Lucas putting the PT above past Jedi eras doesn't make sense in the context of Lucas' Canon and the content around the statement.

Not that I actual consider KotOR the prime of the Jedi, though.

Tbh I agree. I've never been a KOTOR guy, but that statement of Lucas's was clearly in comparison to the OT, where there's literally 1 padawan trying to further his studies on his own.

Originally posted by BlueTiger1144
Where?

Originally posted by cs_zoltan

Kenobi wins

Darach

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
When your argument depends on cool fight choreography, it's time to take the L that is appropriately placed before the rest of your name.

Originally posted by lazybones
Kenobi absolutely butchers him. The fact that Kao is being handed the win based on his performance against rookie Malgus and peasant Vindican is pathetic. Obi-Wan,pre-TPM, was capable of seriously pressing Qui-Gon in a sparring session, who as others have noted, has actually been stated as one of the most skilled Jedi in history. Qui-Gon was considerably superior to the likes of Anoon Bondara, who has been more than once stated as one of the best fighters in the Order in the combative Prime of the Jedi, and a fighter with few equals in the height of Jedi prowess and talent. Looking through Kao's respect thread, I see no such accolades on par with any of that, of even ones of comparable value. And whilst his resilience against very difficult odds in Return marks him out as a skilled Jedi Master, I'm not seeing it being remotely sufficient to give him the win over one of the best and most talented combatants in history.

A rookiee regarded as one of the greatest warriors of the Empire?

Peasant Vindican?

The guy tanked a missile as if it was nothing to him and went toe-to-toe with Darach until the latter acquired another blade and incorporated Trakata moves in his style.

And since when a sparring session an indication of real thing? Satele Shan had hundreds of sparring sessions with other Jedi before she encountered the Sith and she felt utterly outclassed.

Combative Prime? I recall two sources that cast doubt over this bullshit.

If accolades were highly deterministic in assessing a character's chances in all situations, Plo Koon wouldn't have lost to the Sith wannabe in Savage Opress, Kit Fisto wouldn't have lost to Assajj Ventress and Cin Drallig wouldn't have dropped like a fly in his fight against Anakin Skywalker.

One of the best can imply 500 out of 10,000 and 1 out of 10,000. It is a vague assertion.