Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Thank you, I am not sure why this concept is so hard to understand and why people think only Superman can be "well written". I sometines wonder if they understand the difference between a comic book and real life.
As true as your initial post was, i'm not sure what relevance it has to the thread itself. Mind clarifying?
That is literally not even close to what I was getting at. Anyway, like PR said, irrelevant.
As for the thread, even if we call Superman the epitomy of High Herald or trans he is still limited to 3 basic attacks for the most part, punching, heat vision and flying punches. There is just to many characters that cant be beaten physically or have tp or whatnot that Supes has no answer for.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
That is literally not even close to what I was getting at. Anyway, like PR said, irrelevant.As for the thread, even if we call Superman the epitomy of High Herald or trans he is still limited to 3 basic attacks for the most part, punching, heat vision and flying punches. There is just to many characters that cant be beaten physically or have tp or whatnot that Supes has no answer for.
He has more than three attacks 😬
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
That is literally not even close to what I was getting at. Anyway, like PR said, irrelevant.As for the thread, even if we call Superman the epitomy of High Herald or trans he is still limited to 3 basic attacks for the most part, punching, heat vision and flying punches. There is just to many characters that cant be beaten physically or have tp or whatnot that Supes has no answer for.
Some people can overcome versatility though. Superman might be just a pbycual character but I think he has proven himself amongst the ranks. The epitome of High Herald, I highly disagree with but he has proven to be one of the best of that tier. Versatility is great but when it's hard to take your opponent out, then it becomes pointless.
Ok, here's the way I see my scenario going.
Marvel Earth's biggest advantage is mages. Dr. Strange and such.
Telepaths are a little bit of a threat, but when your rogues gallery includes Milton Fine Brainiac, they're nothing he can't deal with.
Marvel Earth's biggest weakness is a lack of speedsters.
Using CBR logic and the highest end feats, and giving Superman the initiative and basic knowledge of everyone (And really, a single character vs the world should use nothing less, or this becomes a pointless exercise.), a high end speedster could alpha blitz most of Marvel Earth alone. Nano-second speeds and Supermans powers is THAT potent. Flash, Superman, Captain Marvel, Black Adam should defeat Thor, Herc, Hulk, Wonder Man, Beta Ray Bill, all at once and all EASILY. Like, Joe Casey Superman vs Imperiex Probe easy.
Speed is THAT effective. And while this logic never flies on most board battles, that's why I think one Supeman is all you need.
As for Odin on Asgard... Eh, Odin Sleep window. If he has initiative (Which he should, if he's invading..)
Originally posted by riv6672
Thank you for the fan fic.
I hope you don't mean that about Superman beating Thor, Hulk, Wonder Man, ect..
Because he WOULD blitz the shit out of them. Seriously. KMC never accepts it, but that's how fast he is.
If you mean in a more general way, you didn't say abstracts. I'm going off your original post of Marvel Earth, Asgard, Olympus..
So Odin would be the biggest card there.
Sentry, somehow I have a hard time believing he'll be a regular defender of Earth. Why not bring up every one shot character ever, instead of a typical "Marvel Earth and the nine realms" scenario.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I kniw, but thise are his 3 go to attacks. He has no answer for tp or matter manip or a host of otger things.
I don't think you know the Superman character enough. True he doesn't posses TP and MN, but he sure has a high resistance to them.
Unless a character is far above Clark, normal TP and MN won't work. Before you say Lord, remember it took Lord yrs to manipulate Clark.
Also, Emperor Joker? Bruce went crazy after Joker mind phucked him, Clark took those memories and he was just fine. Same happened with Dominus and countless others.